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Offline Vulcan

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« on: October 31, 2005, 01:56:06 PM »
Indonesia?

Things are starting to warm up with extremists over there. Just recently theres been more bombings, 3 Christian school girls were beheaded (age 16-19), and the people responsible for the Bali bombings have been getting time off their sentences under the pretence of some muslim holiday.

If Indonesia slips over into the extremist state, which is the way things are heading, we'll see a nation with 3 x as many muslims as Iran on the doorstep of Australia. Australia and Indonesia have always had "tense" relations, and the USA is a defence "partner" with the Aussies.

Are you guys (US) aware of this emerging threat and what do you think of it?

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2005, 02:06:55 PM »
Saw the pics of those kids over at ogrish.  People treat people very poorly on this planet and it is painful just being alive sometimes.....

We are in a world of hurt Vulcan.
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2005, 02:12:42 PM »
They've got a great strategy going in Europe...

Work the immigration issue until they have enough people in-country to have political power, then start trouble.  When it's pointed out exactly WHO is causing the trouble, claim religious persecution, say that the problems are the acts of a few extremists, and work a few extra "rights" into law in the name of anti-persecution legislation.

Exactly how many Muslim scholars have been brutally murdered with bible excerpts attached to their body by the knife used to murder them?  Yet Islam is peace so NOTHING can be done about the religious extremism spouting from a few mosques because it's not politically correct to crack down on religious groups that preach terror and intolerance, and the threshold is moved one more inch toward islamo-fascism.

Maybe they're taking cues from California, where illegal Mexican immigrants have managed to secure social privledges given to nobody else in the US, simply by quietly moving North, taking what was originally intended to go to taxpayers and citizens, and using race-driven political uproar to secure additional privledges, rights, and social guarantees anytime someone mentions that non-citizens are getting billions of dollars of benefits intended for legal citizens.

Works for illegal Mexican immigrants in the US, no reason why it can't work for Islamic extremists anywhere else.  It fits in very nicely with the "blame the victim" mentality going around in the world today, because as they're fond of saying in the UK anytime it's suggested that homeowners should be able to defend themselves with lethal means, even murderers have human rights that are not given up even when comitting violent crimes.  The victim is held to account to guarantee the "human rights" of the assailant, and the same logic used to forbid homeowners the right to defend themselves without limit in their own homes is used to ensure that the citizen victims in an immigration crisis are not allowed to take universal action to prevent illegal immigration or punish groups that foster Islamic extremists.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2005, 02:20:39 PM »
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Saw the pics of those kids over at ogrish.  People treat people very poorly on this planet and it is painful just being alive sometimes.....

We are in a world of hurt Vulcan.
of the above mentioned beheaded 16 years old girls?

why on earth would one want to look that up and see it?

i am sorry i just dont understand it.

on topic, if that did happen this is the first i have heard of it, but that is the kind of story that should be a headline on the evening news. show how sick and brutally evil those muslims truly are.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2005, 02:32:00 PM »
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of the above mentioned beheaded 16 years old girls?

why on earth would one want to look that up and see it?

i am sorry i just dont understand it.

on topic, if that did happen this is the first i have heard of it, but that is the kind of story that should be a headline on the evening news. show how sick and brutally evil those muslims truly are.



Ihave to agree why look at beheaded girls to see how evil islam is?

on the other hand, at ogrish I found

Insurgent Found Electrocuted in Iraq

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2005, 02:40:30 PM »
Oh, I've known about the problem in Indonesia for a while.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2005, 02:47:52 PM »
Unless they start bombing nightclubs or planting drugs on unsuspecting tourists and then sentencing them to 20 years in prison, we don't have to worry about Indonesia.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2005, 02:52:00 PM »
Vulcan, Australia and New Zealand better get Indonesia under their sphere of influence before they wind up a Chinese Protectorate.

Yup we've got a mutual defense treaty with Down Under.. and NOT with Indonesia.

If I wuz the Australian Government I would use the first pretext that came to hand to launch a very convincing invasion. When the Chinese get nasty about it I think we can and will help.

Sheesh.. talk about the Giant Rat of Sumatra... :)
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2005, 02:59:02 PM »
The Aussie relationship is not that great with Indonesia anyway, something about oil believe it or not. But if hostiilities did break out Aussie has a very large sparsely populated northern border, and frankly I don't think they could handle open hostilities, plus the nambi-pambi peaceniks in NZ probably would try and keep us out of the fight. I could see the US getting dragged into it pretty quickly.

What could be fun for the Aussies is extremists slipping in through their northern border. I can see some major terrorist attacks on aussie shores within the next 2 years.

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2005, 03:04:42 PM »
"what do you think of it?"


 sounds like a good place for the masses that were left homeless in the US by hurricane Katrina. Most of whom I bet have only been able to dream of owning a homestead!

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2005, 03:17:20 PM »
"To kill a Musilm is not murder...it is the path to heaven"....some loco monk on the Road to Messina in KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2005, 03:19:19 PM »
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Oh, I've known about the problem in Indonesia for a while.


Don't forget Thailand and the Tamil tigers. They have killed many people in the last 18 months.

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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2005, 03:28:50 PM »
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Don't forget Thailand and the Tamil tigers. They have killed many people in the last 18 months.


Errmm tamil tigers aren't muslim's, "technically" they're buddhists.

The Thai one is a bit of a worry, however Thailand is a buddhist country, with no notion of giving in to the muslim extremists. Whereas Indonesia seems to be sympathetic to their extremist minority.

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2005, 03:39:47 PM »
All too aware of it:

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We have, for starters, devoted massive new resources to counterterrorism. At its peak, we had well over half of our 11,000 Agents devoted to the investigation. Over the past six months, several hundred of those Agents have been sent overseas at various times, including to Singapore and Malaysia. The initial shift in resources has abated somewhat, but over the longer term, we essentially plan to double the number of Agents we have dedicated to investigating terrorism.
source: http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/speeches/sinagpore31502.htm


Other FBI warnings to Indonesia:
http://www.worldtravelwatch.com/archives/2005/10/indonesia-bali-bombings-show-terrorists-still-a-threat.shtml

Other Bali terrorism articles:
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/bali.htm
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2005, 04:37:27 PM »
[whisper mode]The Tamil Tigers are from Sri Lanka.[/whisper mode]
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