Three High School Girls Beheaded in Sulawesi

[Seagoon]

[Caveat: the following will probably only be of interest to evangelicals and those who don't happen to believe that "all religions are the same" and are not currently the Prince of Wales.]

I was contacted by email by a SBC missionary friend in Indonesia who sent me the following article and told me that over the past few months, things have gotten progressively worse for Christians throughout Indonesia (the world's largest Muslim country), he said that the latest round of attacks including the recent beheading of 3 teens has left the community shocked and numb. Local Imams are apparently either encouraging further action or telling the "central government" authorities to "back off." Anywho, if you're interested you might want to send a letter or an email to the Indonesian consulate, address below.
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WASHINGTON, Oct. 29 /CWS/ -- International Christian Concern  has learned that the pattern of persecution against Christians in Indonesia has taken a dramatic turn for the worse with the beheading of 3 Indonesian Christian high school girls, Yarny Sambual, Tresa Murangke & Alfina. Two others were attacked as well but survived. The survivors also had their throats slit (one in serious condition).

ICC has been reporting on the increase in persecution towards Christians in Indonesia over the last couple months. Radical Islamists have been increasingly forcing Churches to close with and without help from local authorities.

Things have gotten so bad that on Oct. 25, that the Secretary of the "Indonesian Churches Together" sent out an SOS appealing for the world's prayers for Christians in Indonesia.

Now comes this horrible news we received overnight that 5 Indonesian High School Girls were attacked in Poso (Sulawesi) with three of them being beheaded.

Poso experienced a brutal wave of persecution from '98 to 2002" with hundreds murdered and a 1000 or so homes burned down. 2003-2004 saw a series of assassinations of pastors and Christian leaders.

The hidden background to all this is the funding of radical Imams, mosques, and pesantrens (Islamic boarding schools) by Saudi Arabia. Although Muslims and Christians had good relations for hundreds of years, since the advent of Saudi influence in Indonesian Islam there has been wave after wave of death and destruction.

This same pattern is repeated in Pakistan. Now thanks to the work of Freedom House, it has been found that the same influence is being spread in US mosques.

All this while the Saudi's spend millions of dollars each year in the US trying to convince US citizens on TV ads and through the efforts of Washington's top lobbyists of their undying friendship with the people of the US.

We would ask all concerned individuals to contact the Indonesian embassy to politely ask for the protection of Christians in Poso as well as to end the pattern of Church closings in West Java, Indonesia.

Embassy of Indonesia, Washington DC
Ambassador: Duta Besar
Minister: Andri Hadi
2020 Massachusetts Ave NW
Washington DC 20036
202-775-5200
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For a Link to the Freedom House (a non-partisan, non-denominational group) report on Saudi influence referenced above: click here

For a local report from the Jakarta post on the slayings: click here

(please keep in mind that the JP's readership is almost entirely Muslim)

- SEAGOON

[Mustaine]

seagoon, it was sort of being discussed here:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163521

but by read my reply there... by all means bring these sick bastards into the public eye. hopefully more will quit feeling sorry for the muslim SOB's and see what they truly are. evil sadistic bastards.

may they have 72 hot coals shoves into their anuses in hell, like they deserve

[LePaul]

Ah but Islam is a religion of peace, yes?

Sad.  Funny how we have to tolerate them, yet they wont tolerate us.

[eagl]

Forget the coals, let them have their virgins.  Living for eternity with a household full of women you can't have sex with sounds like hell.  The book says they're virgins and if I recall correctly, it doesn't specifically mention giving approval to make them non-virgins...  I figure the real situation is that those Muslim men on their way to paradise are going to show up and find out that they're really Mr. "honey-do" for a whole bunch of women who don't really *need* anything (it's paradise, remember?) but who still want their man to prove his devotion through countless repetitive acts of personal sacrifice.  Sounds like a pretty busy afterlife to me.

I'll take a city in the clouds, wings, and a harp over that eternal guilt-trip nagfest anyday.

[RightF00T]

72 virgins? Sounds like alot of crying with no satisfaction= Hell

[straffo]

Originally posted by LePaul
Ah but Islam is a religion of peace, yes?

Sad.  Funny how we have to tolerate them, yet they wont tolerate us.

The christians allways have been peacefull.

[Seagoon]

Sorry, didn't mean to repeat a thread.

However, rather than wishing they'd all go away in the most unpleasant fashion. I'd rather see us collectively work to do all we can to end the massive Saudi campaign to fund new mosques worldwide and then flood them with Wahabbi material. Considering they absolutely ban the importation of all Christian religious materials into Saudi Arabia and forbid the building of new churches, or non-Islamic religious gatherings (other than those on foreign compounds by registered foreigners) that would only seem to be equitable.

Hating them right back, while it may satisfy our frustration particularly at ongoing acts of awful barbarism, isn't going to produce any change at all. But on the other hand, a real commitment to resisting the spread of evil - and a willingness to actually call it that - combined with a concerted effort to introduce lasting worldview change in their own society, rather than watching ours get progressively overwhelmed, will. If you think that's impossible, may I remind you that Indonesia was a country converted to Islam by concerted Islamic "missions" in the first place. Personally I'd say, if you are appalled by what's going on in places in the 10/40 window like Indonesia, then you need to support the efforts of the men and women who are working to lift the veil of darkness that has lain on those nations for far too long.

- SEAGOON

[GtoRA2]

Straff,
 Well no they have not always been peacefull but the crusades were a long time ago.

When was the last time a christian extremists blew themselves up and took a ton of people with them?

Christians may have been a problem at one time. They are not really now.  
(atleast in the world of terrorism, and to you bananas that are going to say abortion clinics, try thinking about scale and numbers before posting that stupid argument)

No other religion right now has as many nutballs doing stupid crap like the muslem religion.

[Thrawn]

Yeah!  And we should collectively work to do all we can to end the  massive Vatican campaign to fund churches all over the world and spread the Roman Catholic doctrines of tyranny and intolerance.  Those nosy buggers tried to tell our representitives in government what laws to pass and not pass vis a vis homosexual unions.

[Pooh21]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Yeah!  And we should collectively work to do all we can to end the  massive Vatican campaign to fund churches all over the world and spread the Roman Catholic doctrines of tyranny and intolerance.  Those nosy buggers tried to tell our representitives in government what laws to pass and not pass vis a vis homosexual unions.

And to start, we should stop huffing paint thinner!

[Sandman]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
No other religion right now has as many nutballs doing stupid crap like the muslem religion.

I'm wondering how that works out if we calculate nutballs per capita. AFAIK, there are more muslims than christians on the planet. Stands to reason they would have more nutballs as well.

Anyway...

[Trell]

Sounds to me like it is a very small part of the people that are the cause of this...

Reminds me of a more violent version of the black church burning thing that was going on a few years ago.
the difference there is it is not as much of a police state there,  so it is more difficult to catch everyone.
The biggest problem is the  rebels from the philippines and Indonesia  working together now,  Makes it tougher for the 3rd world governments from stomping them out,


I am defently not pro Islam,  they need a real make over of there religion,

But the woe is me attitude of the christian missionary's,  is a bear to live with sometimes.

Btw  not to argue to much,   but.. from my understanding the Jakarta post is written for English speaking readers,   A lot of missionaries and business people read it,   not a lot of Muslims...

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Sandman
I'm wondering how that works out if we calculate nutballs per capita. AFAIK, there are more muslims than christians on the planet. Stands to reason they would have more nutballs as well.

Anyway...

Name even small groups of Christian nutballs that blow people up on a regular basis.

Christian nutballs that stick withen the laws and try and push their nutball ajenda don't count


(I am not a christian BTW, but I think Christianity is pretty harmless at this point, and most are good people, not that most Muslims are bad but alot of them are.)

[Masherbrum]

This is why my eyes will NEVER see The Pyramids, Jerusalem, in person.  

BTW, sending letters to a Muslim and myself being a Catholic will have ZERO impact.  They are what they are, a bunch savages.
Karaya

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
Name even small groups of Christian nutballs that blow people up on a regular basis.

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