Calif Nov Election

[lazs2]

believe me.... I am exstatic that your wife has allowed you even this much....

honestly.... It is more than I could have ever hoped for.

I know I should try to act grateful and n.. ni...nuh.... nice... but... well, you know... it's just not my nature.

lazs

[2bighorn]

Originally posted by lazs2
The school has no right to arrange an abortion for someones 14 year old girl and then transport her to the abortion clinic and hide the whole thing from the parents.  This is just unbelievable behavior.

If 14 years old girl gets pregnant, than parents have obviously failed...

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by lazs2
believe me.... I am exstatic that your wife has allowed you even this much....

honestly.... It is more than I could have ever hoped for.

I know I should try to act grateful and n.. ni...nuh.... nice... but... well, you know... it's just not my nature.

lazs

Maybe on the 73 thing it’s a head in the sand approach?

IE, if you don't know your 13 year old is humping every kid on the Jr High baseball team and she gets the abortions on her own and you as a parent never hear about it, you can then go on thinking your kid is a good kid and you are a good parent!

Just ignore the 3 or 4 different kids climbing in and out of your daughter’s windows and the open sign on it...

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
77.  Sandy have you read what this does besides the costs?  Currently politicians have a re-election rate of around 96% because the repubs and dems get together and draw their own districts.  I don't think this is ethical.

That makes it worth another look. Thanx.

[crowMAW]

They have elektions in Kalifornia?

[Eagler]

73 & 74 WOW!

you go girl!!

LOL

[FUNKED1]

73 Yes
74 Yes
75 No
76 Yes
77 Yes
78 No
79 No
80 No

[Mighty1]

Originally posted by 2bighorn
If 14 years old girl gets pregnant, than parents have obviously failed...

I'm not sure I follow the logic.

Parents have the choice of trying to be with their kids 24hr a day or giving them some space. ie friends house , movies etc etc. Now if you trust your kids(and we all hope we can) you may let them go to the movies with their friends. Either you take them or the friends parents take them and you do what? Do you let them take some personal responsibility and let them stay by themselfs till the movie is over or do you stay with them the whole time?

Say you let them stay and while you are gone they sneak out to do the bouncy bouncy with a boy. Is this really the parents fault?

No matter what you teach your kids if they want to sneak away and play with each others mommy daddy toys then they are going to find a way.

It doesn't mean the parents were bad or that they did something wrong.


On the issue of parents being notified I think since the parents are legally responsible for the kids till they are 18 they have the right to know everything about the kid.

[lazs2]

Parents failed?

she probly got pregant when she was at school or said she was.

lazs

[NUKE]

If your kid gets caught smoking a cigarette at age 13, then you have failed as a parent and the state has the right to remove a lung if needed without your knowledge

[lazs2]

and funked... only one thing I can say to your vote on 75.   you are asking to take away my choice.  right now my choice is to pay my money to the union and let them use it to fund commies or.... have a reduced membership in the union where I pay them and the onlyway they represent me is through collective barganing...  I am not really a "member of the union"  or... drop out completely..

75 makes it so that you remain a union member in every way but that you spend your money for political purposes your own way.

I am not sure but I think you are saying that you allready can do so... It appears that you are saying that if you can do so that screw all the other guys who can't.

lazs

[NUKE]

What if my 13 year old daugher wanted to get breast implants? It's her body.....

Could she go to a clinic and get the breast implants for free and without permission?

Maybe she wants to get her middle finger removed from each hand. It's her body. Why can't she just have the school arange for the surgery?

[midnight Target]

Do our rights begin at age 18? I mean constitutional rights. Can we legally restrict the constitutional rights of someone because they are under 18?

Seems to me 73 is a no brainer for all you nanny state haters. You want your daughter's rights taken away?

And the school can't arrange an abortion that is just nonsense. She would have to do it on her own.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Do our rights begin at age 18? I mean constitutional rights. Can we legally restrict the constitutional rights of someone because they are under 18?

Seems to me 73 is a no brainer for all you nanny state haters. You want your daughter's rights taken away?

And the school can't arrange an abortion that is just nonsense. She would have to do it on her own.

MT, you are blowing smoke. Minors do not have the same rights as adults.

[lazs2]

I don't know MT.. that is the thing.  If you want kids (under 18)  to be able to get an abortion without the parents knowing or consenting tho... you would either have to have it court ordered or...

have the sc decide just what age a person was no longer a minor and was subject to ALL rights and laws of an adult.

A parent should not be able to restrict the child from going out with a 50 year old say... the school could even arrange the meet if that is what the child wanted.   Tattoos?  school could bus a load to the parlor.   If they are old enough to decide to have sex and, abortions... they should be able to decide who to date and if they drink or not and to buy a firearm and to vote etc..

any trouble they get into will be treated as an adult and the parents will be held blameless for any property or personal injury that they incur.

not sure what you want.

lazs