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Offline Chairboy

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« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2005, 10:22:07 AM »
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They install software on your operating system, which you use under lincense.
Tell me Nuke, if that's ok, then why isn't it ok for a virus to be installed on your computer?  Your argument seems a bit shaky, just because you don't actually own the OS means that you have no control over what gets installed on it?  Respectfully, I disagree.  By that logic, antivirus software would be illegal.
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« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2005, 10:39:33 AM »
Prediciton....


Amd / Intel markets slump in asia due to drm hardware trojan action..


asia cuts out USA chip design process thru corporate espionage and then controls entire process of fabbing the chips including now design and manufacture  (i could see china do this..) (or Korea)

USA tries to bully china/korea...  China/korea stop buying cheap loans..

USA networks broadcast madonna's "Dont cry for me Argentina" as we have a meltdown..


Microspy melts down becuase of currency devaluation...


Untill that nostrodomus event..


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« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2005, 12:52:02 PM »
takes drag off ciggy.....
Well, now i think i know why silent hunter III wouldnt ever install on my puter....the thing saw i had 2 dvd burners and crapped out even tho i was using the plain jane dvd "player" even tech support couldnt figure out WHY it wouldnt insatll. Instaed they blew me off and closed the discussion :furious
Im with wolf14 in wanting to know if they put on the box about this software...cause i wont buy it if it has it, The problem is how do you know it has it?
As for avis/longhorn ...they cant even get XP right and from what i have heard longorn is supposed to be a whole new os, Im thinking its gonna be qwhile yet before we see it come out.
Crap now I gotta redo my cool sig.....crap!!! I cant remeber how to do it all !!!!!

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« Reply #78 on: November 03, 2005, 02:08:22 PM »
Most copy-protected software/music/video will say it is copy-protected on the box (check closely though, it could be in the fine print).

The other option is to put the onus on the store you are buying it from.  Ask them, "If this software is copy-protected, can I return it for a refund or exchange on something else?".
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« Reply #79 on: November 03, 2005, 02:15:29 PM »
We're lucky in NZ, we have some good consumer laws. "If the goods aren[t fit for the purpose they were brought for" is all we need.

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« Reply #80 on: November 03, 2005, 02:15:44 PM »
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Most copy-protected software/music/video will say it is copy-protected on the box (check closely though, it could be in the fine print).

The other option is to put the onus on the store you are buying it from.  Ask them, "If this software is copy-protected, can I return it for a refund or exchange on something else?".


Don't try that at wally-world.  Their return policy for media is that they don't have a return policy.  Exchange for the same title only.

YOU CAN'T STOP THE WAL-MART....

(but that's a whole other thread)

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« Reply #81 on: November 03, 2005, 02:22:07 PM »
That is why you ask before you buy it.
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« Reply #82 on: November 03, 2005, 06:02:45 PM »
http://www.star-force.com/protection/protection.phtml?c=256&id=658

The above was Starforces reply to the article posted below...

(http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/10/01/the_war_on_game_pirates/index.html)

Both interesting stances...
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #83 on: November 03, 2005, 06:09:19 PM »
Har har har, Sony's rootkit bites em in the ass.

From Slashdot

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/11/03/187215.shtml?tid=158&tid=206

Your Rights Online: Blizzard's Warden Thwarted by Sony's DRM Rootkit
Posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday November 03, @02:16PM
from the why-openness-matters dept.

shotfeel writes "First, news of Warden -a bit of code from Blizzard's WoW to trounce game cheats. Then, a Sony rootkit to make your computer safe for music. Now, news that you can use the Sony rootkit to make your game cheats safe from the Warden."

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« Reply #84 on: November 08, 2005, 12:41:16 PM »
Two Class-Action Lawsuits Filed Against Sony BMG Music
Posted on Tuesday, November 08 @ 13:25:03 GMT by tinfoil

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The first, filed in state court in California, alleges:

1. Violations of the Consumer Legal Remedies Act (Cal Civil Code Section 1750 et seq.);
2. Violations of the Consumer Protection against Computer Spyware Act (Business and Professions Code Section 22947-22947.6); and
3. Violations of the California Unfair Competition law (Business and Professions Code section 17200 et seq.)

The second, filed in the Southern District of New York, alleges:

1. Computer fraud under 18 USC 1030;
2. Deceptive Business Practices under New York Law (Sections 349/350 of the GBL); and
3. Common law fraud.

For information on how to join in these Class Action lawsuits:
Consumerlaw1@earthlink.net


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« Reply #85 on: November 08, 2005, 02:13:52 PM »
Friggin' A!

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« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2005, 11:33:24 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051111/ap_on_hi_te/sony_copy_protection

"Viruses Exploit Sony CD Copy-Protection

By MATTHEW FORDAHL, AP Technology Writer Thu Nov 10, 8:49 PM ET

SAN JOSE, Calif. - A controversial copy-protection program that automatically installs when some Sony BMG audio CDs are played on personal computers is now being exploited by malicious software that takes advantage of the antipiracy technology's ability to hide files.
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The Trojan horse programs — three have so far been identified by antivirus companies — are named so as to trigger the cloaking feature of Sony's XCP2 antipiracy technology. By piggybacking on that function, the malicious programs can enter undetected, security experts said Thursday.

"This could be the advanced guard," said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at the security firm Sophos. "We wouldn't be surprised at all if we saw more malware that exploits what Sony has introduced."

The copy protection program is included on about 20 popular music titles, including releases by Van Zant and The Bad Plus, and disclosure of its existence has raised the ire of many in the computing community, who consider it to constitute spyware.

Sony BMG Music Entertainment and the company that developed the software, First 4 Internet, have claimed that the technology poses no security threat. Still, Sony posted a patch last week that uncloaks files hidden by the software.

On Thursday, Sony released a statement "deeply regretting any disruption that this may have caused." It also said it was working with Symantec and other firms to ensure any content-protection technology "continues to be safe."

Neither Sony spokesman John McKay nor First 4 Internet CEO Mathew Gilliat-Smith returned messages seeking additional comment.

Windows expert Mark Russinovich discovered the hidden copy-protection technology on Oct. 31 and posted his findings on his Web log. He noted that the license agreement that pops up said a small program would be installed, but it did not specify it would be hidden.

Manual attempts to remove the software can disable the PC's CD drive. Sony offers an uninstallation program, but consumers must request it by filling out two forms on the Internet.

"What they did was not intentionally malicious," Cluley said. "If anything, it was slightly inept."

The copy-protection software, which Sony says is a necessary "speed bump" to limit how many times a CD is copied, only works on Windows-based PCs. Users of
Macintosh and
Linux computers are not restricted.

The viruses also only target Windows-based machines.

The infection opens up a backdoor, which could be used to steal personal information, launch attacks on other computers and send spam, antivirus companies said.

Sony also is facing legal headaches. On Nov. 1, Alexander Guevara filed suit in Los Angeles County Superior Court seeking class action staus. He claims Sony's actions constituted fraud, false advertising, trespass and violated state and federal laws barring malware and computer tampering.

His attorney, Alan Himmelfarb, did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation, an online civil liberty group, said it is hearing from people who have run into problems with the copy protection software. It is considering filing its own lawsuit, said EFF staff attorney Jason Schultz.

"You can't uninstall it, you can't find it, and it's vastly more invasive in terms of privacy and personal property than any other (digital rights management) program to date," he said."

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« Reply #88 on: November 11, 2005, 12:48:25 AM »
Welcome to this week.

Did you even read the title?  It says:

"Viruses Exploit Sony CD Copy-Protection"

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« Reply #89 on: November 11, 2005, 12:50:46 AM »
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Welcome to this week.

Did you even read the title?  It says:

"Viruses Exploit Sony CD Copy-Protection"


Last week explained that this is NOT a Virus, but a Trojan Horse.  You ever watch Groundhog Day?

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