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Offline midnight Target

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« on: November 11, 2005, 09:30:25 AM »
Pat Robertson...

What is wrong with this guy's wiring? How can the religious right continue to let this idiot be a spokesman?

We call and clamor for the Imans to denounce Bin Laden and Zarqauwi. Needs to be done. But it looks like we have some home grown zealots to be wary of too..

''I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected Him from your city.''

-- Pat Robertson, Nov. 2005 (re the rejection of the School Board for trying to insert ID in the science classroom.)

''If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war.''

-- On Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, Aug. 2005

''I think the gradual erosion of the consensus that's held our country together is probably more serious than a few bearded terrorists who fly into buildings.''

-- On whether ''activist judges'' are more of a threat than terrorists, May 2005



''Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up''

-- Referring to the State Department's location while criticizing the agency, Oct. 2003

Offline Sandman

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2005, 09:49:10 AM »
Individual Christians are the only ones really -- and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him.

When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. "What do you mean?" the media challenged me. "You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?" My simple answer is, "Yes, they are."

You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them.

The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians.

I think "one man, one vote," just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights.

Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2005, 09:50:36 AM »
Midnight,

You are probably well aware of this already, but the United States is literally filled with demagogues who say stupid things every day, and who have a loyal following who continue to support them regardless of how absurd their commentary becomes. So for every Pat Robertson, we also have Al Sharptons, Louis Farrakhans and so on. This is the price we have to pay for maintaining freedom of speech in a soundbite driven society.

There are many differences between our Robertsons and the aforementioned Imams however. The Imams will preach that the infidels are apes, dogs, and pigs, tell the faithful that they must be cleansed from the earth and that Jihad is their duty, and good percentage of the umma will listen and respond by taking up arms or strapping on bomb belts and carrying out their holy duty. Even if one were to take the call to nuke foggy bottom as a serious threat rather than Robertsonian hyperbole, American Christians do not respond by saying "God's will is that we nuke the state department - honey we have some plutonium in the garage right?"

But if it makes you feel better, although I hardly qualify as a leader, I've spoken publicly against Pat's tendency to ignore the spirituality of the church, his "worship America" tendencies, and called several parts of his doctrine and practice unbiblical. So theres at least one Christian extremist who has never been in Pat's camp.

I'll trust you to deal with Al Sharpton...

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2005, 09:51:23 AM »
NOW should have denounced Clinton in office during the Lewinski affair...but they didn't. Quiet as kittens.

The ACLU should have denounced the FBI in the Randy Weaver case, but didn't.

Why should Religious leaders denounce a TV evangelist?

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2005, 09:59:17 AM »
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NOW should have denounced Clinton in office during the Lewinski affair...but they didn't.
 


I'll bite. Why?
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 10:03:01 AM »
I have a feeling that if even one beheading were traced to him or his followers....or even something as slight as a suicide bomber...

you might see religious leaders getting as far away from this joke of a guy as possible... He is right now tho.... much less dangerous than jesse jackson or sharpton.

I would denounce all three as minor little evil pissants.

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005, 10:06:43 AM »
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I'll bite. Why?

Ask yourself this...if Bush was in office and had a BJ in office, do you think NOW would have spoke up?  You can bet your house on it.

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2005, 10:06:48 AM »
I think that all three are probably equally racist.

As for which one is most dangerous, I'm going to have to go with Pat. He's the only one with a regular television show.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2005, 10:07:22 AM »
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Ask yourself this...if Bush was in office and had a BJ in office, do you think NOW would have spoke up?  You can bet your house on it.


Again, why would they?
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2005, 10:16:55 AM »
It made me extremely happy to see jordanians protesting in the street AGAINST AQ and zarkowi (SP)

Either way I don't like pat robertson and he doesnt speaks for all of us

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2005, 10:39:45 AM »
pat has more chance but the other two use theirs to best advantage to stir up the natives and incite violence....  pat has probly incited less rioting or condoned it than the other two scumbags.

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2005, 10:39:48 AM »
Its comical to me, as long as robertson doesnt start calling for suicide bombers he can say whatever he wants to.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2005, 11:12:03 AM »
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Ask yourself this...if Bush was in office and had a BJ in office, do you think NOW would have spoke up?  You can bet your house on it.

Rip I really don't think Cheney swings that way.....well ya never know.

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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2005, 11:19:03 AM »
I saw a program, where a spokesman for Pat Robertson mentioned and confirmed that Pat wants military action in the Middle East because he says it goes along with the Bible description of the second coming. With a War in the middle East, where half the Jews are killed and the other half revert to Christianity.

I dont know to much about the bible, Ive only read a little a bit of it. But anybody who wants the world to end, so he can go to heaven when Jeebus comes back, Is mentally ill.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Religious Leaders Should Denounce
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2005, 11:32:52 AM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Pat Robertson...

What is wrong with this guy's wiring? How can the religious right continue to let this idiot be a spokesman?

We call and clamor for the Imans to denounce Bin Laden and Zarqauwi. Needs to be done. But it looks like we have some home grown zealots to be wary of too..


To denounce implies association.  I'm a Christion but Pat Robertson does not and will never speak for me.  I would venture to say that most Christian denominations wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.  He's just a quack who claims to be a Christian but doesn't seem to follow Biblical principals.

Also you will never hear the majority of people who follow Islam denounce the terrorists.  Why on earth would they want to accociate themselves with murderers when they themsleves live lives of peace?
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