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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2005, 09:05:21 AM »
mav..  just a difference of opinion and a slight one at that... nothing wrong with the m14... just a cheapened version of the Garand... the Garand has a better gas piston placement so is more accurate... the 8 round clips are less than half the firepower but.... they weigh nothing (u can pack a lot more) and... they eject themselves... you save a step... biggest problem with em is... no way to top em... you either shoot all of the clip or have less ammo in the rifle or... eject the whole mess and play 1-7 round pick up.  M14 is fine tho.

45-50 thousand extremeists sent to alah?  sounds like I was right.. lets just make iraq a killing ground for em..After all...

the muslim religion is a religion of peace... they got to be running out of extremists pretty soon right?

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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2005, 10:15:57 AM »
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I were just looking for picture like this, to show how big technological supperiority US have ;)


A lot of people make different choices.  Your comment in the face of observable fact is yet more evidence of humanity's stupidity.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2005, 10:21:36 AM »
I did some work at VMI recently, got to go into armory...like HUNDREDS of M14's...pretty cool:aok
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2005, 10:47:29 AM »
I would just like to say that you CAN top off the garand.  You can only top it off to 7 though.


Common misconception.
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2005, 10:59:23 AM »
watch yer thumb! ;)
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2005, 11:40:04 AM »
I've never ever had either of my garands close on my thumb.
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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2005, 11:43:10 AM »
I did. I was the klutz poster boy. :)
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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2005, 11:44:54 AM »
clip holds 8... if you retract the bolt you eject the round in the chamber.  If you only shoot 1 round You can't top it off and.. what would be the point?  Just eject the whole mess and insert another clip of 8

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« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2005, 12:38:41 PM »
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I were just looking for picture like this, to show how big technological supperiority US have ;)


The AK was made in Yugoslavia.  Ammunition in Arabia.

Bullet holes from the weapon visible on the front of the turret (just above left shoulder).  US won.
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« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2005, 12:43:15 PM »
Dumped the AK and picked up an MP-5 when we got some. Had to dismount more than I would have liked.  Needed something with a little more range than the 9mm (also, wanted to see what the AK could do... reliable but no accuracy - reminded me of a M-3 grease gun)
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« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2005, 12:53:43 PM »
How about this picture:

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Try and find a snapshot of a captured M-1...

This was the only T-72 we could get close enough to get a picture of.  The other ones were still burning.  Crew from this one decided not to play anymore and fled.
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« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2005, 01:04:15 PM »
I'm just saying Lazs, that it's a common misconception that you can't top off the garand.  I routinely go from 2-3 rounds up to 7 in the bloc.


The 8th is a ***** to get in even when the clip is out of the gun.
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2005, 01:36:24 PM »
Why dont we use MG3s instead of m240s?
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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2005, 01:57:19 PM »
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Try and find a snapshot of a captured M-1...


I didn't know they made M-1s in Poland ;)

I saw enough burining M-1s on some Arabian sat TV during the invasion, was funny when I posted it here and people started screaming about "communist lies", only until about 1/10th of what I saw was shown on Western TV...

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This was the only T-72 we could get close enough to get a picture of.  The other ones were still burning.  Crew from this one decided not to play anymore and fled.


Miko2d made a good post here about T-72 abilities back in 2003. He served as a  gunner in Belorussia in mid-80s. As far as i remember he said he could hit targets at the speed of the reloading automat. It's the man, not the machine, and it's not the man, but recon and communication.

Off-topic: I am reading a book about Russo-Japanese war now, first time I try to dig into ground warfare history 1904-1905 (naval part of the book is quite primitive, I knew more then I read there), and it's making me sick. Russians had numerical and technical superiority, but the lack of motivation and initiative led to a catastrophe... Reading about battle of Liaoyang now, a good  read about "how not to wage wars" :( The biggest battle in human history before WWI...
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« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2005, 02:02:23 PM »
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I didn't know they made M-1s in Poland ;)

I saw enough burining M-1s on some Arabian sat TV during the invasion, was funny when I posted it here and people started screaming about "communist lies", only until about 1/10th of what I saw was shown on Western TV...
 



I don't rememer anyone calling "communist lies" or even anyone who didn't see burning M1s on the news

That reminds me of the time US forces entered the center of Baghdad, and you didn't believe it, saying that the Russian reporters couldn't find any of them :D  

And Boroda, if you were able to see something on SAT tv, then I'm sure people here saw the same things. Contrary to popular belief, the US does not only have CNN and FOX news.
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