How the left supports the troops

[Maverick]

Hang,

In some types of civil service you could actually see more combat than some military MOS's.

Just pulling your chain.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by Hangtime
How very Jeffersonian.

I agree completely. Serve, either civil or military; you get the franchise. No service, no franchise.

I'd like to add.. tax exemption and guaranteed healthcare for those that chose military service instead of civil service would be nice.

Okay I'll bite....

Tell me about "Jeffersonism" Hang.

[AWMac]

Popcorn and beer, sittin in a soft spot.....

enlighten me Hang...


Mac

[Hangtime]

It's kinda basic really.. Jefferson proposed that if you own property and pay property taxes, you can vote, run for office, be a judge, etc. Un-propertied tradesmen that had no property (land) also paid no taxes (back then there was no such thing as 'income tax') and therefore they had no rights to the franchise.. ie, no voting rights; can't run for or hold public office, etc.  At least as far as I can recall, that was Jefferson's take on it.. I may be off the mark; been 45 years since my Civics class.

Mav's spin on it is based on service to the Nation rather than property ownership/taxpayer status.. serve the nation for 3 years, then you can vote, hold office, etc. Decide not to serve, no onus.. but no right to vote or hold office.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Hangtime
It's kinda basic really.. Jefferson proposed that if you own property and pay property taxes, you can vote, run for office, be a judge, etc. Un-propertied tradesmen that had no property (land) also paid no taxes (back then there was no such thing as 'income tax') and therefore they had no rights to the franchise.. ie, no voting rights; can't run for or hold public office, etc.  At least as far as I can recall, that was Jefferson's take on it.. I may be off the mark; been 45 years since my Civics class.

Mav's spin on it is based on service to the Nation rather than property ownership/taxpayer status.. serve the nation for 3 years, then you can vote, hold office, etc. Decide not to serve, no onus.. but no right to vote or hold office.

He's talking about the book Starship Troopers wich is absofrickenlutly NOTHING like the move.  On a level of greatness the book gets a 9/10 the movie gets a -57/10.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
It's simply amazing that these people align themselves with democrats and poeple still vote for them.

http://leavemychildalone.org/




From the site.

Yes it's been done this way since the days of modern recruitment.  Just like colleges military recruiters from all branches get a list of students who are potential applicants.  This is nothing new been that way since at least 92 probably before then.


Welcome to the modern age of computers.....

again nothing new here.....this has been done for at least the last 10 years.

EDIT:
A second thought occured to me and that is if these people don't want their children to enlist all they have to do is not sign the papers.  Once the kids are 18 they are their own people.  I would agree that recruiters are annoying when they CONSTANTLY call but most don't see how stressfull their jobs are.  If one annoys you all you have to do is contact the station commander and complain to him and the phone calls will probably stop.

You mean the far left. I could go find the same kind of bs from the far right and post it as mainstream right but its a waste of time.  You have a lame duck president and its time to face it.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Raider179
You mean the far left. I could go find the same kind of bs from the far right and post it as mainstream right but its a waste of time.  You have a lame duck president and its time to face it.

these people arent that far to the left.  I hardy see what the "far right" does that's worse than this.  Besides we've allready established because of the "you should denounce" thread that it means everyone.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
these people arent that far to the left.  I hardy see what the "far right" does that's worse than this.  Besides we've allready established because of the "you should denounce" thread that it means everyone.

O’REILLY: You know, if I’m the president of the United States, I walk right into Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium, and I say, “Listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you’re not going to get another nickel in federal funds. Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead.” And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. We’re going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.

So basically O'reilly says its ok to take out San Fran because they are un-american for exercising their right to disagree. Sad day for America if you on the left support this bs.

That clear up what I am talking about?

[lasersailor184]

Wow, raider's back for more punishment.  After a month's hiatus.

[GRUNHERZ]

Another Cindy Sheehan Micheal Moore USA Bashing production!  Lovely!!!

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Wow, raider's back for more punishment.  After a month's hiatus.

Naw just came back to see you guys stick with bush all the way down.

I realized tonigh that we cant win the war on terror. That is just a bs statement to begin with. Those sneaky (%&)'s will always be able to sneak in create acts of terrorism. I think we just have to learn to absord and minimalize the damage as much as possible. Katrina showed me that the Bush administration is STILL uncopmletely prepared for a major catashrophy. To me we are still in 2000 when we should still be living as if its 9/12/01. Man I miss that country. We were all there. Anything and everything. Nothing left to be said, I am sad it feels like my reps and senators are ruining our counry. Together they are screwing all of us, and our leader can do nothing about it.

[GRUNHERZ]

Did a liberal just sayu that we shouldnt even try to fight the terrorists and should just hide and learn to "absorb" the damage done in terrorist attacks?