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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2005, 05:39:29 PM »
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Guns hiya:)

 How does your link knock down what Sakai is saying? I must be missing something. One short speech doesnt mean much.


Hiya Silat,
Well all the points he makes are based on his opinion.  H.R. 4655, the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998" is LAW and FACT.  

To me this isn't about if Iraq had WMDs or ties to terrorism it is silenceing the "bush lied" crowed using viable fact.  There's numerous out there and they've been layed out in thread after thread here on this board.  Not one person here can prove to me that Bush lied about going to war.  The real proof is in the deffenses they give and how much it changes while the prowar side has allways been steadfast in their reasoning.  

Sadam had bio/chemical weapons.  Everyone knows this because he used them.  This is yet another silence to yet another argument of "why can other countries have them and not him" it's simple, he's used them and if left unfettered would have used them again.  

No matter how you say it regieme change in Iraq had been US foreign policy since 1998.  There's no way around it, it was written into law.  No one in the "Bush lied" crowed can explain it away.  

I'm very proud of Bush and Cheny for finally fighting back against their critics.  Alot of us are saying it's about time.

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« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2005, 07:25:46 PM »
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Sadam had bio/chemical weapons.  Everyone knows this because he used them.  



Everyone knows this cause your country sold him the raw materials to make the chemical weapons...

Which begs the question...Why did u sell that stuff to him?..Can you answer that one?

You illegaly arm the Contras..
You invade Grenada & Panama..
You sell weapons to both Iran & Iraq when they are at war
You deliver the chemical kaka to Sadam with a handshake from Rumsfeld

Then you take the moral high ground when he uses it and use that as the reason to invade Iraq?


Talk about yer ferkin indian giver.
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« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2005, 07:32:40 PM »
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Everyone knows this cause your country sold him the raw materials to make the chemical weapons...

Which begs the question...Why did u sell that stuff to him?..Can you answer that one?

You illegaly arm the Contras..
You invade Grenada & Panama..
You sell weapons to both Iran & Iraq when they are at war
You deliver the chemical kaka to Sadam with a handshake from Rumsfeld

Then you take the moral high ground when he uses it and use that as the reason to invade Iraq?


Talk about yer ferkin indian giver.


This is an absolute pointless statement.  Can you back up the fact that we sold them the weapons?  Was the US the ONLY country to sell weapons to Iraq/Iran?  WTF does Grenada and Panama have to do with Iraq?

Last time I checked we were blowing up T-72 Tanks and fighting an enemy that used Kalishnakovs (SP?)  Who make's SCUD missle's again?

The entire premise of this thread is a counter to the "Bush Lied" revisionists, do you have a point to make about that at all?

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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2005, 07:42:14 PM »
Answer the question.
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« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2005, 07:43:00 PM »
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Everyone knows this cause your country sold him the raw materials to make the chemical weapons...


Common misconception.

Saddam told us that he was worried that Iran would use WMD against him.  So we gave him neutered samples (kind of like vaccines) for him to experiment with as to which way to best prevent the use against Iraqis.


You could take all the samples we gave saddam and shove them up your nose in a single instant, and you would not even catch a cold.
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« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2005, 07:48:43 PM »
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I wouldn't know. A NYTHING that has boys in high heels...rather sounds unattractive to me.

Knock yourself out. It's all you:lol


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« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2005, 07:58:24 PM »
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Common misconception.

Saddam told us that he was worried that Iran would use WMD against him.  So we gave him neutered samples (kind of like vaccines) for him to experiment with as to which way to best prevent the use against Iraqis.


You could take all the samples we gave saddam and shove them up your nose in a single instant, and you would not even catch a cold.



Sirloin has tried to derail this topic twice with the "BIG BAD USA DID IT"  change of subjects.  This particular version has been investigated by the UN and a democrat controlled congress back in 1993.  They both have blown holes in his therory and if he cares to search the "O' Club" he will find at least two threads that discuss it in length.

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« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2005, 08:13:50 PM »
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Answer the question.


1.  It's not a valid question pertaining to the topic
2.  It's not a factual based question

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« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2005, 09:52:54 PM »
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It's a great record

Dont let the title scare you off.
If you're afraid listening to a record with this name it will turn you queer...too late Mr. Garrison
I was going to say the same thing to him.

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« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2005, 07:00:12 AM »
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« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2005, 10:15:22 AM »
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a couple of reads Krusher & Gunslinger

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/hiro20020828


http://traprockpeace.org/rieglereportexports.pdf


1.  This still does not prove anything right for the "Bush lied" crowd
2.  I don't trust these articles, they make it sound like we were the chief supplier of weapons to Iraq wich just isn't the case.  Did we help Iraq?  I would say yes,  During the cold war the world was a different place and you had to take sides in conflicts such as these.  


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« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2005, 07:15:44 PM »
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Common misconception.

Saddam told us that he was worried that Iran would use WMD against him.  So we gave him neutered samples (kind of like vaccines) for him to experiment with as to which way to best prevent the use against Iraqis.


You could take all the samples we gave saddam and shove them up your nose in a single instant, and you would not even catch a cold.



You should read it too..especially the Senate report about how the biological kaka "was not attenuated or weakened and was capable of reproduction"..Anthrax,ecoli..etc..Wanna shove that up your nose?
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« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2005, 07:18:17 PM »
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You should read it too..especially the Senate report about how the biological kaka "was not attenuated or weakened and was capable of reproduction"..Anthrax,ecoli..etc..Wanna shove that up your nose?


You still havn't proved that Bushed lied nore have you proved that Iraq did not have WMD prior to the invasion.....in fact your helping make that argument.  And agian have you ever heard of the "cold war"?

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« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2005, 07:28:39 PM »
Bush lied when he took the oath...

As for proving Saddam didn't have WMD before the invasion?...r u 4 real?
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« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2005, 07:30:29 PM »
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Bush lied when he took the oath...

As for proving Saddam didn't have WMD before the invasion?...wtf?


Exactly.....you got nothin huh.:lol