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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2005, 06:14:36 PM »
Thank you straffo for your words, I will read them.  It is indeed better than just saying the guy is a neo-con and ending it with that.

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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2005, 11:00:46 PM »
Thanks for the comment, it is appreciated. Your quotes pointed out one thing that struck me as a point that the guy really doesn't know about or at least understand some of what he was writing about. His comment about the free masons being an athiest society. That is actually backwards. You cannot be a free mason and be an atheist.

Now here is another question. Do you have any commentary or articles that are counter to this guy? There is very little here in the US about this and this is the only article I've seen about the riots from your country.
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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2005, 02:40:46 AM »
Well all the article I read are :
usualy in french
in newspaper :)


I don't know how I can provide more information the only sources I've seen on internet who provide english informations are either left biased or right biased.
And 2 wrong never made 1 right.


Gunslinger my answer was certainly simpliste but IMO it was accurate.

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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2005, 05:16:26 AM »
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You cannot be a free mason and be an atheist.



Actually, the French Grand Orient Lodges have been admitting Atheists for a long long time.

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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2005, 06:19:28 AM »
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Actually, the French Grand Orient Lodges have been admitting Atheists for a long long time.


Yep a contrario to the english lodge , you can be Maçon and agnostic or athee

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« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2005, 12:26:30 PM »
Then they are violating one of the basic tenets of the organization. Under that circumstance I can't see how they would be considered free masons by the grand lodge in the US. There have been splinter groups before however.
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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2005, 01:03:12 PM »
Quick question for Straffo..

Is there a French 'Resistance'? A Modern 'maquis' confronting the 'youth unrest'?
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« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2005, 02:14:19 PM »
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Then they are violating one of the basic tenets of the organization. Under that circumstance I can't see how they would be considered free masons by the grand lodge in the US. There have been splinter groups before however.


The French lodge are pretty different have their own way since 1800 (abour)

Btw I was wrong on this one :

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Strange, the Police said it was mostly « primo déliquants » I guess they don’t know what they are speaking about …


The DGPN (head of police) said : 80% of the people under arrest were known by police (whatever it mean).

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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2005, 11:38:48 PM »
That just means they have had contact with them. Usually by arresting them on other charges in the past.
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