Author Topic: Turn off HO (Read 2730 times)

Mr No Name · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2005, 06:19:41 PM »

All shots are fair... Some planes it is THE best tactic when up against a superior plane. Besides HO was the preferred tactic for killing bombers IRL.. with the easy mode buff guns its the best tactic to use if you want to survive now

Karnak · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2005, 06:38:18 PM »

doobs,

Ramming is nigh impossibel to do intentionally as it only counts if it is on your FE. In a head to head approach with both aircraft going 350mph, a 700mph closing rate, and a total connection time of 333 milliseconds between your FE and his FE there will be a 770ft diffference between what you see on your FE and what he sees on his FE. What this means is that if he collides with you on his FE it very well may look to you like he missed by 200 yards and consequently you take no damage whereas he is destroyed. The opposite is also true where it can look to him like he pulled up 300 yards in front of you, climbing well above you, and on your FE it looks like he pulled up right into you in a deliberate ramming attack. We can never know exactly where we are in relation to other people on other FEs in any online game.

Due to this all pervasive lag that is just part of the internet as dictated by the limits of electronics and the speed of light each of us flies in our own unique reality that bears only limited similarity to anybody else's reality.

ygsmilo · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2005, 11:14:38 PM »

One mans Ho is another mans 135 degree deflection shot.............

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #18 on:** November 21, 2005, 12:20:00 AM »

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Originally posted by ygsmilo
One mans Ho is another mans 135 degree deflection shot.............

or could that read 45 degree deflection shot or 225 degree deflection shot?

is fitting either way

Krusty · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2005, 12:53:58 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
Air Warrior is dead get over it.

Tilt · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2005, 08:57:49 AM »

There is still much AH could learn from AW and even more AW should have learnt from the likes of AH.

AW's frontal cone was actually an arena setting that reduced the lethality of stuff striking an AC from within the proscribed forward cone. Basically if you fired "12 to 12" then lethality was reduced to about 10%.

Coupled with no collision it generated a particular form of combat that rewarded only those who had secured a good rear deflection angle or a secure "saddle".

Dog fights became "dances".

Upon reflection (whilst entertaining) it was very unrealistic.............
how much more unrealistic than the HO's we get here I am not sure but at least in AH the model is one of realism even if the combat often is not.

mussie · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2005, 10:19:50 AM »

I accept that HO's are part of AH,

BUT surely you all agree that the HO/Collision rate has inceased

I got HO/Ram twice by the same guy, in the same fight tonight.

YES I understand how the Collision / FE bit works

Yes I know that it is not happening on both FE's

BUT Like I said they have increased recently I do not think that can be denied.....

Then again maybe Its just that I am flying sober....

ALSO PPL
Dont forget that there are concessions made Like:
- auto retracting flaps
- unlimited WEP
- auto take off
- the removal of the sheep so the BK's can get some kills instead of augering

and so on and so forth

I can live with the HO's but the Raming is getting on my tits...
But I guess I will just have to learn to live with it also
(the ramming not the tits)...

~~All~~

Wilbus · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2005, 12:08:57 PM »

What a horrible idea.

It was a bad idea the first time I heard it and it just keeps getting worse every time I hear it.

Get over it, learn how to avoid, learn ACM then kill the bastages instead.

T0J0 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 21, 2005, 03:48:24 PM »

Everytime the HO issue is brought up the same people jump up and Yell "whiner" and spout the same negative attack on the poster.
Every encounter now is either a "HO" a "Collision" or a Spitfire using a combination of the previous two.. Gameplay over the last year which everyone on both sides of the coin agree on thier own personal agenda terms is negative.. The "HO" and "Collision" functionality in this last version{S} make me want to cancel my account and you can make negative attacks all you want I really dont care any longer about it I don't have 12 hours a night to practice "HO" survival skills I have about 5 hours a week which is basically friday nights 3 times a month. So maybe the AH experience isn't for me any longer no biggie, us weekend warriors just didn't make it in the new AH2 scheme of things, life will go on.

AutoPilot · « **Reply #24 on:** November 21, 2005, 04:08:59 PM »

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I don't have 12 hours a night to practice "

This is where the HO shooting comes from,they dont wanna learn they wanna kill kill kill and get thier name up in lights.

I love when people go for the HO against me,it lets me know they have no idea what ACM is and makes it very easy too get them.

I am beyond landing kills in an arena,i like shaking people off my 6,dragging them too thier doom,and overall out flying them period.

The HO is a Valid tactic as was widely used by just about all fighter pilots in WW2,doesn't mean that it's gonna work everytime.

toadkill · « **Reply #25 on:** November 21, 2005, 06:59:34 PM »

sincerley,
THE ANTI-BASTAGE

sgtdeaux · « **Reply #26 on:** November 21, 2005, 07:17:21 PM »

The HO in my mind it not as large an issue as the collision modeling.. if two planes collide at 300 mph both should be reduced to scrap.
Dont believe this physics? Let me illustrate my point.

7 years ago I worked on an emergency response team as a EMT that was called in response to an airplane collision.
two cessnas collided.. one on landing.. one on take off.
the landing airplane managed to belly land with its dead pilot in pieces spread neatly over about 400 yards. The taking off airplane transported its pilot another 300 feet wingless before smashing him into pieces on a tree.

the estimated impact speed was around 90mph for each plane.

This is only slightly faster there some interstate vehicle collisions.
Head on collisions of two airplanes with the same approximate mass results in both planes being reduces to scrap.

At the minimum the heavier plane will be heavily damaged and almost unflyable.

Shane · « **Reply #27 on:** November 21, 2005, 07:26:37 PM »

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Originally posted by sgtdeaux
The HO in my mind it not as large an issue as the collision modeling.. if two planes collide at 300 mph both should be reduced to scrap.
Dont believe this physics? Let me illustrate my point.

sigh.... tell me, does real life have net lag?

hubsonfire · « **Reply #28 on:** November 21, 2005, 07:32:34 PM »

This from the same guy who's complaining that people get to take off again when they get shot down...

sgtdeaux · « **Reply #29 on:** November 21, 2005, 07:36:02 PM »

Not what I said at all hudson.
What I said was the ability to re-up instantinously is a bit far fetched.