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Offline SFRT - Frenchy

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« on: November 22, 2005, 06:04:13 PM »
I have to hook up the turkey thing, I better ask to locals how to do the bird.

So ... what is the proper way to prepare/cook the birdie so my guests don't call INS and get me deported?
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2005, 06:08:09 PM »
Serve it raw, like every else is served in France :p

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2005, 06:09:16 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2005, 06:10:59 PM »
To be honest, I've never had to cook one. My speciality is wild game, like Goose.

However, I found this:
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC3560.htm

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2005, 06:20:44 PM »
Making a turkey is really not a big deal.

Make sure you buy a big one (they cook better and have lots of white meat to go around) even it you don't need all the meat. Small ones tend to overcook faster and can dry out quickly if you do not watch them closely.

If it is frozen put it in the fridge the day before and let it slowly defrost overnight. If it is still slightly frozen in the morning take it out early and put it in the cold oven to continue to defrost.

Make your stuffing. Lots of recipes out there. Just buy some good bread, you can use any type but cut off the crusts. Cube the bread into half inch sized cubes. Now you can get creative. Sage is the spice to add to stuffing but use fresh sage and chop it very fine. People add all sorts to things. Fruit, sausage, burbon, you can search for a good recipe and customize it yourself.

Once you have the turkey thawed clean it. Read how to do this (no secrets here and it is in most cook books so no need to type it all out).

Stuff the turkey with the dressing and sew up the the cavity. You can stuff the neck end and the back end both.

The big secret to cooking in the oven is to continually baste the bird. Every half hour or so. Use the pan juices (oh yeah when you buy the bird make sure you have a pan big enough for it.)

Follow the time necessary for the size of the bird.

Make sure you have a big and very sharp knife for the carving. Nothing ruins a great bird more than using a dull knice or a small knife to carve it. If you don't have one buy one. Forget those cheap Walmart knifes. Go to a high end food store and spend a good 75 to 100 one one. You will have it for the rest of your life, money well spent. Get a sharping steel while you are at it.

Sorry this is so general but I don't follow any receipe, I change what I do each time I cook one but they always turn out fine.

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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2005, 06:56:22 PM »
Go to your local supermarket and order a pre-cooked bird.

Its the way a guy is supposed to cook :)

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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2005, 07:05:36 PM »
Habu, that geeky guy on the Food Network says that basting the bird is not only a waste of time, it dries it out from you opening and closing the door all the time.  

Thats what he said.  :)

Marinate and inject.  Then deep fry the sucker.  Yeah.  Deep frying can even make twinkies taste good.  It does incredible things to turkey.  :)

Did I mention that deep frying is good?

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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2005, 07:23:59 PM »
Can you stuff the turkey with a chicken and stuff the chiken with a pigeon and put an egg inside the pigeon?
I bet that would suprise the guests - a babushka bird. :)

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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2005, 07:43:40 PM »
Deep-fry it !

That's what everyone does in Texas. :aok

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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2005, 08:26:38 PM »
First and most important thing...make sure you get it NOW, and make sure you start defrosting it with enough time to finish before cooking.  Nothing worse than waking up on Thanksgiving morning and realizing you've got a frozen turkey.  Oh, and just to be easy, get one with the pop-up thermometer.

Second, get lots of chicken or turkey broth, as it always comes in handy.

Take it out of the wrapper.  Reach in the bird's butt and pull out the sack containing the innards and either toss 'em, or set them aside.  Put the turkey under running water and just rinse it off, inside and out, then pat it dry with some paper towels.  Stick it in a disposable aluminum foil pan (unless you have or want to buy a real one), and if you want to stuff it, now's the time.

For stuffing, just get some pre-packaged stuffing breadcrumbs...you'll find these in any and every grocery store around the holidays.  I prefer the stuff with herbs and crumbs instead of cubes.  Follow the directions on the package, withholding a little of the water/broth...add broth to suit your tastes for how dry you like it, but keep in mind that any you stuff into the bird will pick up moisture in there, so put it in a little dryer than you like it.  To add some flavor, you can whip out the sack 'o' innards, and toss everything but the liver and kidneys into a small pot of boiling water until they're thoroughly cooked, then pull out the neck and set it aside, and put the rest in the blender until it's well chopped and use that in place of water/broth.  Don't smell this mixture, and don't let any delicate-types see you doing this or they might gag and cry...the end result is goodness though.

Stuff the bird, but don't pack it in too tightly.  Put a couple of cups of water in the bottom of the pan to help with gravy production and to keep the drippings from burning and smoking.  Melt some butter, and add in some fresh herbs, and brush it on the bird (optional, but yummy).  If you're using a cheapie foil pan without a lid, put some foil over the bird...stick some toothpicks in the bird to keep the foil off the skin, so it doesn't stick to the foil.  Cook it according to the directions on the package.  Baste it every hour or so (or don't, whatever).  Pull the cover off for the last 30 minutes of cooking to get the skin nice and browned.  Let the bird sit for ten or twenty minutes before carving it up.

Make gravy with the drippings...use a new pan, or just use the pan you cooked the bird in, and set it across a couple of burners...cheapie foil pans don't work well for this though.  You might wanna use a baster to suck up any excess grease/oil/butter off the top of the drippings...or you might not.  Get it hot enough to boil, and KEEP STIRRING.  Mix some corn starch or flour with some water to make a thich roe, and mix it in with the drippings a little at a time.  Keep stirring until it gets to gravy thickness.  Have bottled gravy as a backup - depending on what kind, it's actually not that bad.

Don't forget the corn.  Corn is important, and corn is goodness.  You should have lots of it.

Also, buy real cranberries, and make real cranberry sauce.  They'll have directions on the package...it's simple if you pay attention, and well worth it.

Finally, eat until you feel like you're about to die.  Then, continue eating until you pass out...try to stay leaning forward when you're near the point of going under, 'cause it'd be embarassing to choke to death on the food that's in your mouth when you pass out.

After Thanksgiving...Turkey Sammiches!

Just remember - it's not rocket science, it's just cooking a friggin' turkey.  Even if you mess up, it'll still be good.

Underdone is solved by more cooking.
Overdone is solved by more gravy.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2005, 08:29:19 PM »
Ya dont forget the plastic bag inside that contains the organs. Kinda ruins the bird if you forget to remove it.

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2005, 08:52:38 PM »
Basting it every hour doesn't work... the trick is to to marinate it properly and place bacon on top of the turkey to seal the moisture within while adding some more of its own (including taste and cholesterol).
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2005, 08:57:21 PM »
Deep Fry it.....get a Marinaide INJECTOR and INJECT the stuff directly into the bird.  Then Deep Fry it in peanut oil.  It's 10 times quicker and the turkey tasts SOOOOOOOO much better.

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2005, 08:59:28 PM »
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Basting it every hour doesn't work... the trick is to to marinate it properly and place bacon on top of the turkey to seal the moisture within while adding some more of its own (including taste and cholesterol).

This man is wise, and bacon is good.  Basting it adds flavor to the skin, but I doubt it adds anything in the way of moisture.
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2005, 09:01:41 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Deep Fry it.....get a Marinaide INJECTOR and INJECT the stuff directly into the bird.  Then Deep Fry it in peanut oil.  It's 10 times quicker and the turkey tasts SOOOOOOOO much better.

It IS good, but you've got to get yourself a deep fryer, propane canister, etc.  I can't argue the thought that it's still worth it though...but I still prefer my Thanksgiving bird to come out of the oven.
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