Author Topic: 20mm for the F4U-4 (Read 1560 times)

AKFokerFoder+ · « **on:** November 22, 2005, 07:58:00 PM »

Apparently there were more F4U-4s built with 4 20mm guns than F4U-Cs

Chance-Vought Official Site

1685 F4U-Ds were built in 1944

200 F4U-Cs were built in 1944

2045 F4U-4 and F4U-4C were built in 1944 (the C had cannons)

297 F4U-4B were built in 1944 these were cannon only models.

So there were more -4's built than -D's

So we should at least give the -4 cannons, perk tag or not.

And we perk the F4U-4?????

Why? probably because the -4 was the best fighter of the war, at least in some experts opinions.

Notice that the -4 is perked, the PonyD and Dora aren't.

Although I think the Tempest is still the premier MA ride perk or non perk

Krusty · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:03:30 PM »

F4u4 is a 1945 plane if I recall, and I know that -4Bs are post war.

1K3 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:09:28 PM »

Bring 4x 20mm F4U4 to Aces High!:aok

It would be nice to have 4x 20mms on F4U-4s to simulate the F4U-5s that Fuerza Aerea Honduras (FAH) used against Fuerza Aerea El Salvador's (FAS) F-51Ds and FG-1D during the *Futbol* War in '69:)

FAH
F4U-4 with 6x 50 cal option
F4U-4 with 4x 20 mm option (This could sub for FAH's F4U-5Ns. Major Soto became the last fighter ace of the 20th century using prop planes)

vs

FAS
F-51D
FG-1D (F4U-1D built by Goodyear)

more info on FAH vs FAS
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_156.shtml

Krusty · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:44:33 PM »

F4u4s as it was barely saw ANY action in the war (literally arriving in the last few months, seeing little action at all -- I heard they shot maybe 2 planes down over Okinawa), and you want an even later model?

There's nothing wrong with 6x50cals as-is, Imagine a F4uc with F4u4 engine! There's a reason we're only including war-time planes, and sadly we shall not see this or many other post war planes, no matter how cool it would be (F7F... *cries silently* F8F *cries more*)

Oh well, better off that we NOT have them.

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:49:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
F4u4 is a 1945 plane if I recall, and I know that -4Bs are post war.

This is the website posted by the manufacturer of the F4U. This is not a website posted by some fan of the F4U.

F4U-4 Information

According to this site "The first flight of the production F4U-4 was in September 1944." That is production, not proto-type.

Again according to the Chance-Vought website: Note the part of the quote "War Years" meaning WW2

Other versions of the F4U-4 produced during the war years were:

F4U-4B: This airplane was equipped with four 20-mm cannons instead of 50-caliber machine guns (used in the early F4U-4 production) and eight 5-inch rockets under wings or up to 4,000 pounds on centerline and pylon racks. Vought built 297.
F4U-4C: Many F4U-4’s became F4U-4C’s with four 20-mm cannons in the wing instead of six 50-caliber machine guns which were used in the early F4U-4 production.
F4U-4N: This was a night version fighter of the F4U-4. Only one was built.
F4U-4P: This airplane was equipped cameras installed behind the pilot. Vought built 9.
By the end of 1944, Chance Vought was turning out 300 Corsairs a month, or one complete air[plane every 82 minutes. A total of 5,380 F4U’s were built during the year.

Chance Vought turned out 2,673, Brewster Aeronautical 599, and Goodyear Aircraft 2,108.

Again, check the url, it is the manufacturer's website

Krusty · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:56:02 PM »

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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
Again, check the url, it is the manufacturer's website

Erm.. generally I agree with websites that have clout behind them, but I believe they screwed up some simple things like top speed and/or armament on some of their own planes, so I don't trust theirs or Boeings' webpages anymore. Did you find any other links?

Grits · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2005, 09:08:33 PM »

Krusty, the F4U-4's service date was 4-'45 so it was introduced six months before the end of the war in the PTO. It saw extensive service at Okinawa.

Krusty · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2005, 09:10:34 PM »

Off the top of my head I can't remember, what was V-J day? I thought it was June-ish...

Hornet33 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2005, 09:31:00 PM »

January, Febuary, March, April, May, June'ish VJ Day

1 2 3 4 5 6

Yep six months there and it started being manufacutred in 44 so we can add a few months to the six we have already detirmined that it was in service.

Octavius · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2005, 09:32:24 PM »

August... 15th... two big booms ring a bell?

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2005, 09:32:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
Krusty, the F4U-4's service date was 4-'45 so it was introduced six months before the end of the war in the PTO. It saw extensive service at Okinawa.

4-'45. That's 2 months from June '45, Hornet.

Hornet33 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2005, 09:42:56 PM »

I believe he ment 44-45 not April 45

Pooh21 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 22, 2005, 10:26:56 PM »

FA has it. Its F4u4c all the time there.

Grits · « **Reply #13 on:** November 22, 2005, 10:28:14 PM »

Operational service date in squadrons was April '45 the war ended in AUGUST 15th '45. Not quite 6 months, but it was in service for Okinawa which lasted from April to July where it saw extensive combat off of CV's.

Mime · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2005, 10:42:03 PM »

Yeah give the newbies another cannon hog crutch along with the Spitifres Typhoons Tempests and Hurricanes and 1c so they don't have to learn how to aim. They can just point in general direction, spray and hope for 1 hit. Don't worry about learning the game. Just make it easier to play.