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Offline bozon

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K-4 with cannon pods: some sources
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2005, 02:35:14 PM »
If K4 or any other 109 model could load up gondolas, it should be in the game. Especially since we used to have them, so bringing it back should be easy (I guess).

Unless it's a date problem, that is - like our spit 5 is supposed to be 1941 model, so cannon ammo is 60 rpg and not the later 120.

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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2005, 04:59:44 PM »
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Well, as far as edges are concerned, gamey options give them. Not realistic loadouts.

Really, its sad to see old respected hands like you Wide justify gamey things in the name of a gameish MA.

TOD? Whats TOD? Ah, I remember something 2 years ago. So far we have only the gamey MA.


I'm not trying to justify anything beyond common sense use of resources available to a pilot. Loading your aircraft to suit the mission is not gamey. You want enough gas to get you to and from a fight and not be caught overloaded. USAAF pilots in the ETO, PTO, SWPA and MTO didn't have to worry about being jumped on the climb-out. Missions often lasted more than 6 hours. In the MA we see 30 minutes as a fairly long sortie and with the enemy base within 35 miles (or less), the odds of running into enemy fighters on climb-out are high.

If we had the ability to fuel internal fuel tanks to a specific weight of gas (instead of in 25% increments), few would be using drop tanks in a manner we have been discussing. However, we are stuck with loading gas in an unrealistic manner. Often we have to load too much, and the alternative is too little or marginal at best.

TOD isn't far off... I expecting that it will be ready for beta testing by late January.

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Offline Knegel

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K-4 with cannon pods: some sources
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2005, 01:34:45 AM »
Hi,

have anyone sources that the K4 realy almost never got used with gunpods??  At least the 'schwere Gruppen' of the Reichsveteidigung (JG30x), which did use the 109G10/K4, still made intercepts in early 1945, but  without gunpods this was pretty senceless.

The 30mm in the G6 is a must have, this gun was absolute common in the Reichsverteidigung, where Bombers was the main target.
To call 1500 a few is a joke, eh?? Thats +5% of all 109īs, so the FAF 109G2 skin also need to get replaced??
If the 30mm would get its bad hitprobability on fast moving targets, noone would use it in a dogfight anyway, but with the heatseaker like beahaviour i mostly did preffer the G6 + 30mm over the G2 in a dogfight.
(Grits, have you ever adjusted the convergence to max, when you did use the 30mm??)

Greetings, Knegel