Democrats are now losing the American Public

[Gunslinger]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112600745_pf.html

Sympathetic Vibrations

By Chris Cillizza and Peter Slevin
Sunday, November 27, 2005; A04



Democrats fumed last week at Vice President Cheney's suggestion that criticism of the administration's war policies was itself becoming a hindrance to the war effort. But a new poll indicates most Americans are sympathetic to Cheney's point.

Seventy percent of people surveyed said that criticism of the war by Democratic senators hurts troop morale -- with 44 percent saying morale is hurt "a lot," according to a poll taken by RT Strategies. Even self-identified Democrats agree: 55 percent believe criticism hurts morale, while 21 percent say it helps morale.

The results surely will rankle many Democrats, who argue that it is patriotic and supportive of the troops to call attention to what they believe are deep flaws in President Bush's Iraq strategy. But the survey itself cannot be dismissed as a partisan attack. The RTs in RT Strategies are Thomas Riehle, a Democrat, and Lance Tarrance, a veteran GOP pollster.

Their poll also indicates many Americans are skeptical of Democratic complaints about the war. Just three of 10 adults accept that Democrats are leveling criticism because they believe this will help U.S. efforts in Iraq. A majority believes the motive is really to "gain a partisan political advantage."

This poll is one of the few pieces of supportive news the administration has had lately on Iraq. Most surveys have shown significant majorities believe it was a mistake to go to war, as well as rising sentiment that Bush misled Americans in making the case for it.

Even so, there is still support for Bush's policy going forward. A plurality, 49 percent, believe that troops should come home only when the Iraqi government can provide for its own security, while 16 percent support immediate withdrawal, regardless of the circumstances.

[SOB]

Is it too late to use the nuclear option?  On Washington, that is.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by SOB
Is it too late to use the nuclear option?  On Washington, that is.

I allways liked it in the Tom Clancey book when the Entire legislative branch was killed and Jack Ryan said in reguards to new elections "Give me Farmers, Teachers, Workers, NOT politicians to rebuild our federal govt.

Fire them all I say.

[Thrawn]

http://www.pollingreport.com/2006.htm

[Debonair]

The next election will definitely be decided in the AH "O' Club"

[Yeager]

not only is it terrible for the moral of our troops, especially more so when one old crusty marine loses him mind, it emboldens, motivates, and inspires those that are killing our troops, especially our young marines.

But I am afraid its the system of freedom of speech we enjoy so much, it must be allowed and protected.  I just wish that freedom wasn't abused so overtly for political one-upmanship.  Id rather the arguing be done in closed session, during war -when troops are deployed and engaged in combat.  For them it would be worth the modification.  Congress should debate this issue in closed session.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Thrawn
http://www.pollingreport.com/2006.htm

relevance?

[LePaul]

Cmon Gun, its Thrawn.  Any chance to get a dig on America, he's in.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by LePaul
Cmon Gun, its Thrawn.  Any chance to get a dig on America, he's in.

His link is completly irrelevant.  
1 the data is two weeks old at best.
2. it doesn't once say the word "Iraq" anywere on the page

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
relevance?

Pretty much the same as thrawn,    none.

[Gunslinger]

I just think this is really interesting.  The Democrats tactics have backfired.  The republicans are finally fighting back efficiently and the democrats political game playing seems to be exploding in their faces.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by LePaul
Cmon Gun, its Thrawn.  Any chance to get a dig on America, he's in.

I'm in awe LePaul.  No really, the mental gymnastics you must have gone through to contrue a link to a non-partisam polling record site (with no commentary by myself), as a dig on American must have been incredible.


Gunslinger,

"His link is completly irrelevant.
1 the data is two weeks old at best.
2. it doesn't once say the word "Iraq" anywere on the page"

1.  Only if by two weeks "at best", means 12 days.

2.  Your thesis was that the "Democrats are now losing the American Public.  I posted a link to the lastest polls on how Americans are planning on voting in the next election.  I am amazed that you don't see the relevance.

[LePaul]

Originally posted by Thrawn
I'm in awe LePaul.  No really, the mental gymnastics you must have gone through to contrue a link to a non-partisam polling record site (with no commentary by myself), as a dig on American must have been incredible.

 

Want can I say, Thrawn.  Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...so when you chime into these threads, its the same old.

Plus, shouldn't you be out admiring that socialist utopia you have up there?

[Karnak]

Thrawn,

It is simple.  To many that post here American = Republican and Republican = American.

Democrat = Traitor that should be shot.

It is that kind open hostility that keeps many away from here.


Brown nose the current administration and anything they do or be considered persona non grata.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Thrawn
I'm in awe LePaul.  No really, the mental gymnastics you must have gone through to contrue a link to a non-partisam polling record site (with no commentary by myself), as a dig on American must have been incredible.


Gunslinger,

"His link is completly irrelevant.
1 the data is two weeks old at best.
2. it doesn't once say the word "Iraq" anywere on the page"

1.  Only if by two weeks "at best", means 12 days.

2.  Your thesis was that the "Democrats are now losing the American Public.  I posted a link to the lastest polls on how Americans are planning on voting in the next election.  I am amazed that you don't see the relevance.

No because AGAIN the poll is dated and doesn't not contain the word Iraq anywhere in it.

I honestly could care less about the elections right now, these polls are absolutly meaningless as far as predicting who will win in Nov 2006, that's a little less than a year away.....ALOT can happen between now and then to include campagning.

The democrats stance and recent political games involving the war in Iraq are losing favor with the America.  The Elections in 2006 have very little to do with this RIGHT NOW in regaurds to the publics will reguarding Iraq.