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Offline midnight Target

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« on: December 24, 2001, 06:17:00 PM »
I assume tthat we all feel the extremists at both ends of the political spectrum are wackos. My question is:

Who is more dangerous, right wing wackos, or left wing wackos?

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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2001, 06:27:00 PM »
Yes?

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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2001, 06:30:00 PM »
Whichever is closer to achieving their goals at the given time.
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2001, 06:35:00 PM »
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Whichever is closer to achieving their goals at the given time.

ooOOOoo, good one!

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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2001, 08:22:00 PM »
Wit of the week right there dude: great answer Karnak.

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2001, 08:47:00 PM »
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Wit of the week right there dude: great answer Karnak.


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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2001, 08:56:00 PM »
There can be No Left with out a Right... eh?
Its America's internal check and balance. God help us when if we lose one or the other.

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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2001, 09:49:00 PM »
the left as a matter of history has visited far more terror on the world then the right.

Also the National Socialist German Workers Party was hardly "rightwing" in modern political terms. It simply replaced "class struggle" with "racial struggle".

But I assume you all knew that.......

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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2001, 10:20:00 PM »
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Also the National Socialist German Workers Party was hardly "rightwing" in modern political terms. It simply replaced "class struggle" with "racial struggle".

But I assume you all knew that.......


Actually, from a modern political science point of view.  Both the Nazi and Fascist parties would be considered far right wing.

That's part of the reason Hitler had such a hate on for the Russians.  He considered them to be left wing.

That's okay though, because this brings us to a lefty dictator that slaughtered millions, Stalin.

But it's not terribly relevent.  The left/right polical scale is problably better discribe as a horseshoe shape, as opposed to a straight line.  With the extemist starting to meet at the top.  Once you get extreme enough, left and right don't apply.  Words like sociopath an psychopath do.

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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2001, 10:45:00 PM »
Thrawn ya dont what talkin about.

Hitler didnt like russians because they were slavs. He didn't like communisn/bolshevism. because he viewed it as Jewish in origan.

Facism defined is a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Hardly rightwing.

The doctrines of the National Socialist German Workers' Party in the Third German Reich included the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, Aryan racial superiority.

Hardly "right-wing"

Modern right-wing politics have to do with a de-centralized government.

Too long to post.

Go read Mein Kempf and read about the founders of the NSDAP. Socialism isn't just a catch phrase thrown in to confuse ya.

National Socialism put race above the class struggle but never-the-less was stilled routed in left-wing socialist ideology.

You really oughta know what your talking about before you make ignorant statements.

The modern left equates Hitler and Nazism with modern right-wing politics to demonize them.

Communisn and National socialism are in conflict over the communist belief in equalitarianism where as National Socialism claims Aryan Superiority.

You watch too much network news.

also you might want read about economic policy in german and italy during NSDAP and the fascists reign.

again hardly rightwing.

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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2001, 12:08:00 AM »
Hitler was a fascist.He was extreem right wing.Stalin was a Communist.He was extreem left wing.Come on Wotan,this is grade 7 history discussion.
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2001, 12:16:00 AM »
Nazism and Communism are the same, 100% the same except the public face and propaganda, from the start the ONLY goal was to seize power and control over people. They were both evil.


In the USA the left wing extremists are far more dangerous since they are embraced by many people and currently have a stranglehold on college campuses. Right wing extremists, like white-supremacists are shunned and ridiculed by the masses, while left wing extremists like Jesse Jackson and his ever eager lapdog twit Al Sharpton are lauded as public heroes. Yes JJ is an extremist who practices racial politics, which BTW is whar "racism" is. JJ is a racist no less so than David Duke or whoever right winf neo-nazi you see on TV.

The left wing whackos are very dangerous because they still have legitimacy, the pontentially truly dangerous right wing whackos dont have it now.


And yes, our exhaulted PCites, I admit to being the racist antichirst demon encarnate because I said bad things about that two bit extortionist scam artist Jesse Jackson.

 Sometimes I almost cry because they took a real man,  Martin Luther King Jr., away from us and left us with his nitwit asskisser lackey Jesse.


Karnak has the right idead here, and it very much applies now.

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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2001, 12:23:00 AM »
And thats exactly tre problem Sir Loin, grade 7 history in schools. Im 21 years old and I attended one of the best High Schools in California, half the students could barely identify around which decade WW2 occured.


Communism and Nazism very much same except for the propaganda angle. Both bad. Both kill millions both defeated globally. Though one still survives on USA colleges and Berkely and a few other places, go figure huh?

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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2001, 01:30:00 AM »
right wing
n.
The conservative or reactionary faction of a group.

con·ser·va·tive (kn-sūrv-tv)
adj.
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.


left wing also Left Wing
n.
The liberal or radical faction of a group.

lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.

Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

Which sounds more like Hitler?

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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2001, 01:57:00 AM »
Oh brother.
This is such a handsomehunk stupid discussion that it wonders me why someone would take it seriously.