Author Topic: Canada, let's see how tyrannical we can get. (Read 1348 times)

detch01 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 11, 2005, 03:16:05 PM »

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Originally posted by MiloMorai
detch01

The person that shoots the gang-banger will go to jail and the gang-banger will go free (if still living) because of the bleeding heart judges.
The gang-bangers will then sue the shooter.

Even in Canada juries decide guilt or innocence, unless of course the accused opts for a trial by judge instead of by jury. Judges can't yet get away with over-riding a jury decision and make it stick. Provided you or your lawyer can convince a jury that you didn't mean to actually kill the bastard, did only what was absolutely necessary to protect your own life, you were 100% convinced the guy was going to kill you and you had no way to get away, the theory is, is that you'll be fine. Of course to make that work you've got to be in a part of the Country where common-sense overrides political ideology and be able to afford a high-quality lawyer. If you're unlucky enough to be tried in an area left-wing ideologs infest, or you have to put up with the legal-aid deadhead issued to you, you are essentially screwed. Even then being in jail and/or broke is better than being dead. Jail time is temporary but once your dead it's kind of game-over.

If you didn't kill or cripple the guy, or use your own weapon, and what you tell the police makes sense to them you most likely won't be accused or tried for it - at least that's my theory.

asw

detch01 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 11, 2005, 03:32:11 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
we don't fear gangbangers here. in fact it's quite the opposite. especially since the implementataion of the new florida law allowing us to shoot first if we feel threatened. sadly the only real deterrent to being a victim of violence is by one being willing to ramp up the violence in the appropriate moment. gangbangers here are keeping their little wars in their squalid neighborhoods and carjackings are all but a thing of the past. on another note we are still waiting to turn into "dodge city" as the handwringing freedom hating liberals all predicted. I don't recall who coined the term "an armed society is a polite society" but my beloved florida has become exponentially more polite.

Storch you and I have disagreed on many things but we do agree on this one. Predators by nature go for easy prey, it's safer that way. When the prey isn't easy they relocate or go hungry.

Cheers,
asw

lazs2 · « **Reply #47 on:** December 12, 2005, 08:46:42 AM »

and yet there are still people who think that "liberal" does not mean "gun ban crowd"

lazs

Hornet33 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 12, 2005, 09:21:29 AM »

OK I've read all this about handguns being banned in Canada and everything, and Gangbangers in the large citys pretty much having their way with the general population.

What about long guns??? Rifles and more important...shotguns??? Are these illegal to own also?

As a gun owner, avid shooter, and holder of a conceled carry permit in the state of Virginia, if someone where to come into my house the weapon of choice for me is my trusty Remington 870 12 gage pump action shotgun. #8 game loads will drop anyone if their within 20 feet, but won't over penatrate walls and such. I can't think of a better weapon for home defense than a shotgun except maybe a flame thrower.

They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hand.

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #49 on:** December 12, 2005, 09:53:54 AM »

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I can't think of a better weapon for home defense than a shotgun except maybe a flame thrower.

ROFL! Now there's a sight I'd like to see.. Explaining to the firebrigade on the smoldering ruins of your house and wearing a flamethrower.

detch01 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 12, 2005, 10:06:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Hornet33
OK What about long guns??? Rifles and more important...shotguns??? Are these illegal to own also?

Long guns aren't illegal yet but long guns have legally had to be registered in this country since the early/middle nineties and a person must have a valid FAC (firearms acquisition certificate) to buy a weapon and ammunition.

asw

Hornet33 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 12, 2005, 10:24:10 AM »

Well there you go. Buy a pump shotgun and the first person that walks through the door uninvited, let em have it.

Specs on my baby: Remington 870 Express Magnum. 20 inch smooth bore slug barrel with rifle sights and integral modified choke. Also have a 28 inch barrel with vent rib button front sight with threaded bore for choke tube replacement for bird hunting. Remington extended magazine tube (7 rounds total). Wilson tactical combat sling. Bushnel 4X scope on Weaver 870 scope mount (for deer hunting).

The beauty of a pump is most of the time you don't even have to pull the trigger to stop someone in their tracks. Rack the slide on one of those things and everyone KNOWS they are on the wrong side of the fence and they're pretty much screwed if they don't do what they're told.

Peace through superior fire power!!!:aok

Phaser11 · « **Reply #52 on:** December 12, 2005, 10:27:16 AM »

Political notice.
This is not a message pointing at any person or government. It is for educational purposes only.

Becarefull what you wish for.

"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, or police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

Adolph Hitler 1935

Nashwan · « **Reply #53 on:** December 12, 2005, 11:17:56 AM »

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"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, or police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

Adolph Hitler 1935

You do know that's a made up quote, don't you? The Nazis didn't introduce any firearms legistlation until 1938, the Weimar republic passed the previous laws in 1929.

See for example guncite, or Lazs's favourites Jews for preservation of firearms ownership.

Phaser11 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 12, 2005, 12:42:52 PM »

I'll verify the source or retract it. I would rather be right than wrong.

OK,
I found both sides of the coin. Progun have many links and data that say it is true and the Antigun have many links and data say it is false.

ug.....Punt:rolleyes:

Krusher · « **Reply #55 on:** December 12, 2005, 12:50:13 PM »

Phaser11 said:
"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, or police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

Adolph Hitler 1935
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Krusher · « **Reply #56 on:** December 12, 2005, 12:53:15 PM »

whoops