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Offline midnight Target

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Hey Christmas...Where's The Enemy?
« on: December 13, 2005, 04:34:54 PM »
Honest question.. Where exactly is this attack on Christmas coming from? Can someone please provide evidence of it's manifestation? And please let's skip the ACLU and Creches. That has been going on for years now. What's new?

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2005, 05:03:57 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2005, 05:49:19 PM »
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41724

Also

ABC News recently reported that the Columbia High School brass ensemble in Maplewood, NJ were not allowed to play Christmas carols at their holiday concert this year — not even instrumental versions. Public schools in Chicago have removed the words "Merry Christmas" from a popular song.

 A church group was banned from participating in Denver's annual Parade of Lights and the Mayor of Denver decided that this year would be the last year that a "Merry Christmas" sign on the City and County Building, until public outrage caused him to change his mind.

 The Target stores have kicked the Salvation Army to the curb, banning the Santa Clad bell ringers this year.



Town Im working in had a "Holiday Tree lighting ceremony"
While the town I grew up sidesteped it altogether and had a "Tree lighting ceremony"

In Wendys and other stores workers are not allowed to even say the words "Merry Christmas"


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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2005, 05:49:24 PM »
Well lets see. A guy in Florida hangs a stuffed Santa Clause from a tree, he is excercising his freedom of speech. When a vast majority of the county gets together and celibrates Christmas as a religous holliday, a small minority of the people claim it vilolates their right to freedom of religion and the majority must stop.

I honestly think that most people have forgotten how use common sense. If someone doesn't want to celibrate Christmas...don't. No one is making them, but that doesn't give anyone the right to tell someone else they can't.

If you don't like whats on the TV change the channel or turn it off. Everyone has the option to turn away and not be offended.

Oh I forgot one important thing here.













MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!

I have a right to say that:aok
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Re: Hey Christmas...Where's The Enemy?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2005, 05:53:15 PM »
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Honest question


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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2005, 05:53:53 PM »
it's not under attack, just another casualty of "p.c." bs.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2005, 05:54:20 PM »
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 The Target stores have kicked the Salvation Army to the curb, banning the Santa Clad bell ringers this year.


Good for them. I hate solicitors.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2005, 06:03:39 PM »
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Third-graders in Madison, Wisc. won't be allowed to ring bells to raise money for the Salvation Army as they have in the past because one parent complained about the kids helping a religious-based charity, according to The Capital Times.

Students from Chavez Elementary have for years helped out the red kettle brigade during the Christmas season, along with hundreds of students from around the county. For some, it qualifies as part of their community service obligation.

Principal Howard Fried said the school administration stood down immediately when faced with the complaint. "When the objection was raised, the administration downtown told us, in no uncertain terms, not to allow it," he said.
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=64543&ntpid=8


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Leftist tyranny in the schools has got so bad that a law is now seen as needed to protect school staff who say "Merry Christmas"!

"There’s still no peace on Earth in the fight over Christmas and public places. A new bill in the Legislature would protect public workers or public school students from being punished if they say "Merry Christmas" to each other, instead of "Happy Holidays."
http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=72999


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"Lunch menus imprinted with the words "Merry Christmas" have been discarded and replaced in the Federal Way school district south of Seattle. The December lunch menus for all 23 elementary schools were recalled and reprinted with the words "Happy Holidays" at a cost of almost $500.
http://www.kirotv.com/irresistible/5493725/detail.html


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A Christmas charity drive by some elementary school kiddies in BelleVue, Wash. has been axed after some parents complained that the "Giving Tree" with colored mitten all over it was a symbol of Christianity that has no place in public schools, according to KOMO-TV.

The tree at Medina Elementary School, described as a nondescript coil of silver with a star on top, had mittens as decorations with the ages and sex of prospective recipients along with some suggestions about what they wanted for Christmas.

When a parent complained that the tree was too Christian, the school covered the star on top with a bow to appease the parent but it wasn't enough. So the principal put the mittens on other secular symbols of the season -- a sled, a snowman, a 'regular' tree and a plain old counter.
http://www.komotv.com/stories/40621.htm



just a few examples but we all know who the real enemy of christmas is:











Merry Christmas everbody.  And a happy hanchristmaquanzica to everyone else.

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2005, 06:24:26 PM »
So it would seem that the enemy is .......



Parents?

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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2005, 06:31:15 PM »
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So it would seem that the enemy is .......



Parents?


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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2005, 06:31:36 PM »
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So it would seem that the enemy is .......



Parents?


No, more like idiots, morons, and intolerant jerks who claim to preach tolerance. But then, you knew that already.
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2005, 06:50:42 PM »
there is a lady here in a local municipality Bay Harbour Islands who has had to fight in the courts for the last several years to keep the nativity scene in the park.  menorahs are fine happy kwanza is ok but the c word!!!!! good heavens no way.  the problem of course are you liberals and your tolerant ways.  nice troll btw

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2005, 07:08:07 PM »
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2005/12/12-08-05tdc/12-08-05dnews-06.asp

Most of us here at PSU have been studying too hard to worry about a "Holiday Tree."
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2005, 07:35:55 PM »
Funny stuff this War on Xmas..

The War on Christmas


Sam of The Majority Report, was on CNN today and debated Bob Knight from the Culture and Family Institute, which is really "Concerned Women for America."    Hosted by Kyra Phillips CNN Bubble headed bleached blond.                                            
Sam Seder did a pretty good job on CNN today giving this issue the degree of respect it deserves:
Bob thinks that the bogus (an offensive term in context of what is happening in Iraq) "War on Christmas " is an attack on people of faith. Knight also thinks that using the phrase " Happy Holidays," is offensive. Seder wondered how Bob would even get on TV if it wasn't for his claim that faith is being "cleansed" from the public square. You know Bob was in trouble in the segment when he brought up the Nazis. I'd like to find out how much money Jerry Falwell and his buddies have raked in since this started. Oh, and FOX is having a Holiday party.


SEDER: Listen, as far as the war on Christmas goes, I feel like we should be waging a war on Christmas. I mean, I believe that Christmas, it's almost proven that Christmas has nuclear weapons, can be an imminent threat to this country, that they have operative ties with terrorists and I believe that we should sacrifice thousands of American lives in pursuit of this war on Christmas. And hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money.

CNN PHILLIPS: Is it a war on Christmas, a war Christians, a war on over-political correctness or just a lot of people with way too much time on their hands?

SEDER: I would say probably, if I was to be serious about it, too much time on their hands, but I'd like to get back to the operational ties between Santa Claus and al Qaeda.

CNN PHILLIPS: I don't think that exists. Bob? Help me out here.

SEDER: We have intelligence, we have intelligence.

CNN PHILLIPS: You have intel. Where exactly does your intel come from?

SEDER: Well, we have tortured an elf and it's actually how we got the same information from Al Libbi. It's exactly the same way the Bush administration got this info about the operational ties between al Qaeda and Saddam.


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Yes, well, Kyra, I mean, listen, I would like Bob to tell me who is the person who has been offended by someone saying Merry Christmas to them? I've never met that person.

I don't celebrate Christmas. But if someone says "Merry Christmas" to me, I either think, well, it's a little bit odd, it's like me saying happy birthday to you on my birthday, but no one cares.

But I will tell you this, as we wage the war on the war on the war on the war on Christmas on our radio show. News Corp., Fox News, those people who have started this entire war on Christmas mean, fake war, they're having a holiday party.

President Bush saying "Happy Holidays." Tokyo Rose, Laura Bush, saying "Happy Holidays" to her dogs in the video, I'm sure you've seen it. I mean, these are the things that we should be talking about when we are waging this war in Iraq, we should be equating it to the war on Christmas.

What else would Bob Knight have an opportunity to do, how else would he get on television if he wasn't pretending to be attacked.

KNIGHT: This would be funny except it is serious to a lot of people who have seen their faith cleansed from the public square systemically.

SEDER: Are you suggesting, Bob, that someone can't celebrate Christmas in America? Tell me about the person who can escape the celebration.

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SEDER: I do agree with Bob. I think what should happen is companies should calculate how much money they're getting from people who are celebrating Christmas and provide exactly that much amount of Merry Christmas, because that is exactly how I would want any type of religious holiday to be celebrated.

...

SEDER: Hannukah is not a high holiday. Our high holidays are Rosh Hashanna and Yom Kippur, which I'm sure Bob has been protesting why there are not more Yom Kippur sales or Rosh Hashanah sales during those holidays. Why shouldn't there be, right Bob?

...

SEDER: Bob, have you ever protested Martin Luther King Day not being celebrated. Do you resent when people don't say "Happy Martin Luther King Day" a month out in advance?

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CNN PHILLIPS: Bob, I'm going to let you have the final thought.

KNIGHT: OK. You know, when the Nazis moved into Austria in 1936...

SEDER: Oh, that's offensive, Bob, to raise Nazis. KNIGHT: They immediately removed from the schools. You can read about it in...

PHILLIPS: Hold on, Sam. Let Bob make his point. Let Bob make his point. Go ahead, Bob.

KNIGHT: You can't even let me speak. Can you? You're so...

Maria Trapp wrote the story of the Trapp singers that's in "The Sound of Music," and she said she sent her kids to school after the Nazis took over. And they came home and said mama, we can't say the word Christmas anymore. It's now winter holiday.

I think that ought to disturb people...

SEDER: Kyra, that's offensive.

KNIGHT: ...that we're moving toward that kind of attitude in this country.

SEDER: The Puritans also outlawed Christmas. The founding fathers of this country would fine you in Massachusetts if you celebrated Christmas in the beginning. So don't talk about Nazis, Bob. I think that's really inappropriate.

Why do you have to bring hate to this Christmas and holiday season? That's so sad, Bob.

KNIGHT: Well, let's go to the Soviet Union then too. They had grandfather frost.

Well, it's the truth. You ought to read the book yourself, and maybe you'll change your mind.

SEDER: It's just sad that you have to raise Nazis when you're talking about Christmas and the holiday season. And we all know that Christmas actually, Tannenbaum, it's a German holiday. Bob, I'm really, really disappointed in you.

KNIGHT: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but if you can't understand the force of history...

SEDER: To bring up Nazis, Bob.

KNIGHT: I'm not calling you a Nazi.

SEDER: Oh, who you calling Nazi? Who are you calling a Nazi, sir?

KNIGHT: I'm not.

       There is no war on your faith people.. Get over it...It belongs in your heart , place of worship and your home..
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2005, 08:53:09 PM »
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No, more like idiots, morons, and intolerant jerks who claim to preach tolerance.


In other words. the far left
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