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Offline Lazerr

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« Reply #300 on: December 21, 2005, 04:10:02 PM »
Yeah, sorry YUCCA, I never had the room set up because I was too busy.  I resubscribed yesterday under the shades account "Sway" until I get my CPID unlocked.

Ill hollar next time I run into ya in the MA.:cool:

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« Reply #301 on: December 21, 2005, 04:10:37 PM »
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Mars buddy, I think I found out where you are not clueing in here. The Typhoon is not the best plane for how I fly. I fly to make the best use of the Typhoon's strengths. The plane is the absolute, it is the inflexible aspect of the equation, it cannot change its most basic properties, it's all coded mathematics. Therefore, it is up to the human being to adapt to the plane they are flying because the plane sure as hell isn't going to adapt to the pilot. Human beings are not constrained by any absolutes, human beings can adapt almost infintely to accomodate their environment.

Only a fool would fly a Typhoon the same way as a SpitXVI or vice versa. The style one flies is largely dictated by the plane one flies. When in a turning plane you are primarily looking for planes to turn with, when in a speed plane you are primarily looking for planes to E-Fight.

Zazen

Zazen, I consider you a fellow friend, good competitor, and quite intelligent!  So, in a nice way (until I see you flying the planeset and stop hiding behind Tiff cannons, excuses like the tiff determines that I must perch and lerch, and bullchit of the like), please just stfu with that!  I mean if you only fly the typhoon(less the dozen or so other sorties in the last 5 months that you "mixed it up" with F6F, Jug, and pony) and then say the typhoon's flying characteristics make you BnZ and cherry pick, then what you have decided on is your flying style!  It's what you do!  Don't blame the plane by saying "The typhoon made me fly lame, sir!", just admit that you are lame enough to totally enjoy the BnZ cherry picking style of flying that has become your trademark.  The fact that you fly it exclusively tells one that you have chose that style to be yours.  I personally don't care what or how you fly, although I will give you an earful when you try to twist what is really happening.  Just repeat after me Zazen, I__, Zazen__________, am a cherry-picking________________, boom and zoom______________, Tifftard_________!  Now, that wasn't so hard was it?:aok

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« Reply #302 on: December 21, 2005, 04:13:42 PM »
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I'm not sure about that. The P47, P51D, Fw190D9, Yak, La7, La5, 109, 205 and P38 excel in that role as well, which is best probably depends on the pilot more than the plane.

Zazen

None of those planes have the life saving 4 20mm cannon package!

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« Reply #303 on: December 21, 2005, 04:14:43 PM »
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WHOA DOGGIES !!! You must have me confused with someone else ... I said nothing of the sort.


Might have been mittens. It was one of you guys, hard to tell ya'll apart, you're like lil' Borg clones. :p

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« Reply #304 on: December 21, 2005, 04:22:20 PM »
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Zazen, I consider you a fellow friend, good competitor, and quite intelligent!  So, in a nice way (until I see you flying the planeset and stop hiding behind Tiff cannons, excuses like the tiff determines that I must perch and lerch, and bullchit of the like), please just stfu with that!  I mean if you only fly the typhoon(less the dozen or so other sorties in the last 5 months that you "mixed it up" with F6F, Jug, and pony) and then say the typhoon's flying characteristics make you BnZ and cherry pick, then what you have decided on is your flying style!  It's what you do!  Don't blame the plane by saying "The typhoon made me fly lame, sir!", just admit that you are lame enough to totally enjoy the BnZ cherry picking style of flying that has become your trademark.  The fact that you fly it exclusively tells one that you have chose that style to be yours.  I personally don't care what or how you fly, although I will give you an earful when you try to twist what is really happening.  Just repeat after me Zazen, I__, Zazen__________, am a cherry-picking________________, boom and zoom______________, Tifftard_________!  Now, that wasn't so hard was it?:aok


Haha! I never ever said I did not enjoy flying the Typhoon for some of those reasons, I love it. I love if for maintaining the initiative. I even love turnfighting in the Typhoon against planes it's prudent to do so with. I initially chose the Typhoon for one reason and it wasn't to be the BnZ King of the Universe. I chose the Typhoon because it has great guns and I have good aim, that's a deadly combination however I end up getting the kills.

That is also part of the reason I choose not to fly slow turnfighters very often, it puts alot less emphasis on SA and aim (my strongest skills) and far more emphasis on luck and individual plane-type match-ups, while all but making maintaining tactical initiative impossible against more than a single opponent. I am not the kind of person to be comfortable leaving much to chance, I am a perfectionist, a cold, calculating bastard. Thus, I prefer a plane with the speed and firepower to make the most of my strongest skills, maintain the tactical initiative and leave the least to chance.

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« Reply #305 on: December 21, 2005, 04:23:49 PM »
"Zazen, I consider you a fellow friend, good competitor, and quite intelligent!

Geeeeesh SkyRock ... now you've done it !!! ... go to your room and don't come out 'til your called.
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« Reply #306 on: December 21, 2005, 04:44:35 PM »
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None of those planes have the life saving 4 20mm cannon package!


I don't recall ever being saved as a result of 4 X 20mm, I only recall getting kills because of them.

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« Reply #307 on: December 21, 2005, 05:26:37 PM »
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I am not the kind of person to be comfortable leaving much to chance, I am a perfectionist, a cold, calculating bastard.



I prefer a plane with the speed and firepower to make the most of my strongest skills, maintain the tactical initiative and leave the least to chance.

Zazen

I guess this is the closest this community will ever get to hearing Zazen admit that he is a cherry-picking, boom -n- zoom, lamer tiff-tard!  hee hee:D

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« Reply #308 on: December 21, 2005, 05:45:27 PM »
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I don't recall ever being saved as a result of 4 X 20mm, I only recall getting kills because of them.

Zazen

Clinton couldn't recall, Reagan couldn't recall, Ollie North had absolutely no recollection, Saddam doesn't recall, hell, I don't recall cheating on my second girlfriend back in '85 myself!  Now, that being said, stop fibbin!  You've posted that you commonly go for that one shot!  I have witnessed it myself in battle with you.  last time we  fought you jumped me fighting another typhoon.  I smoked him while dodging your  bnz attempts then beat a rope u threw at me and pinged and chased you as you nose dived to 10feet off the water back underneath at least 40 friendlies.  You missed no less than three shots up there that would have torn me spit to pieces.  So when they do fail to save your arse, you use the dive speed of the typhoon to get out of trouble.  This is:  a. smart flying using the typhoons cannons and speed to get out of trouble and avoid getting into trouble or b. bnzrunlamerness?  or c. both?  *ding* *ding* times up!
my answer is C!  lmao :aok

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« Reply #309 on: December 21, 2005, 06:12:12 PM »
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Clinton couldn't recall, Reagan couldn't recall, Ollie North had absolutely no recollection, Saddam doesn't recall, hell, I don't recall cheating on my second girlfriend back in '85 myself!  Now, that being said, stop fibbin!  You've posted that you commonly go for that one shot!  I have witnessed it myself in battle with you.  last time we  fought you jumped me fighting another typhoon.  I smoked him while dodging your  bnz attempts then beat a rope u threw at me and pinged and chased you as you nose dived to 10feet off the water back underneath at least 40 friendlies.  You missed no less than three shots up there that would have torn me spit to pieces.  So when they do fail to save your arse, you use the dive speed of the typhoon to get out of trouble.  This is:  a. smart flying using the typhoons cannons and speed to get out of trouble and avoid getting into trouble or b. bnzrunlamerness?  or c. both?  *ding* *ding* times up!
my answer is C!  lmao :aok


I don't recall that fight, who was the other Typhoon? You knew it was me somehow? I assume then that you filmed it, can I have a copy please? I'd love to see where i made a mistake...



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« Reply #310 on: December 21, 2005, 06:37:08 PM »
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I don't recall that fight



Zazen

:rofl :aok

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« Reply #311 on: December 22, 2005, 01:00:43 AM »
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It's what you do! Don't blame the plane by saying "The typhoon made me fly lame, sir!", just admit that you are lame enough to totally enjoy the BnZ cherry picking style of flying that has become your trademark.
Classic :D:lol

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« Reply #312 on: December 22, 2005, 01:04:35 AM »
Who The _____ is Straffo?:rofl

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« Reply #313 on: December 22, 2005, 01:08:37 AM »
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That is also part of the reason I choose not to fly slow turnfighters very often, it puts alot less emphasis on SA and aim (my strongest skills) and far more emphasis on luck and individual plane-type match-ups, while all but making maintaining tactical initiative impossible against more than a single opponent. I am not the kind of person to be comfortable leaving much to chance, I am a perfectionist, a cold, calculating bastard. Thus, I prefer a plane with the speed and firepower to make the most of my strongest skills, maintain the tactical initiative and leave the least to chance.
I hate to say it, but this is again one of the most retarded explanations and opinions of TnB that I have ever read LOLH.  Dude if I was this clueless about TnB, all I would do is BnZ, hide in the hord, cherry and run too.:rofl :lol

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« Reply #314 on: December 22, 2005, 10:22:49 AM »
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I hate to say it, but this is again one of the most retarded explanations and opinions of TnB that I have ever read LOLH.  Dude if I was this clueless about TnB, all I would do is BnZ, hide in the hord, cherry and run too.:rofl :lol


I keep trying to tell you! I suck! ;) I' m just not good enough to fly a Spit XVI. It's sad, but true! :(

Zazen

P.S. Mars, how'd you shrink the font on your Sig text?
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