Originally posted by Kweassa
Im not sure....
I'm not a good pilot but I've always flown 109s for years. It's hard to fight with 109s but then again it was always difficult. I've inquired about the slats when I tested the turn radiuses for the fighter planes and the answer I got was that the 109 is already heavily influenced by the slats. The turn radius I've tested out myself - and found not much difference from the previous versions.
The only 'problem' I see with 109s is that some people are claiming the speeds for some of them are off, and the flap deployment speeds are wrong. Other than that I can't see or feel what's so different about them in version 2.06.
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They were always garbage trucks, always stiffens up at hard speeds, always horrible in maneuverability, always stalled/destabilized at the slightest stick pull, always had sucky ammo.... and yes, everything else handles better than 109s and 190s, with even P-47s flying circles around the thing.
But again, that's how it always was in AH. No change at all IMO.
It doesn't pull turns like Spits, nor can it follow even P-47s in a turn, as a matter of fact. It doesn't have bullshi* Hizookas nor easy-fire 50cals... it can't pop flaps out at 250mph and start outmaneuvering the first merge - which by the way, every US fighter at least more than twice the weight of 109s can pull off in a dime. All it can do is climb and accelerate.
It was always like that.
I have to disagree with your statement re the 109's always handeled this way.
In AHI the 109's could do a great manuver that IIRC they were capable of in real life. Under certain circumstances and with your speed within certain high and low limits you could do a snap turn that left allied planes in the dust. You could nearly reverse direction within the length of the 109. I used that manuver many times when someone was on my 6 and closing. It worked and worked great! Got me outa some bad situations. Although sometimes I did it wrong and BANG went down LOL. With AHII that ability disappeared TOTALLY! No matter how I tried the 109 would NOT do that manuver or some others it used to do. Now it just SEEMS to flounder around if you even THINK of starting that manuver. IMHO It went from a plane with hidden abilities that had to be worked at to find, and worked at to use properly. Abilities that made it the quick and nimble little fighter that had surprises as it was reported to be, into a null ability garbage truck.
IMHO the CG or something is just a hair off!!! The rudder and vator authority at all speeds SEEM reduced as well. The k4 and g14 are far worse handling then the g10 was. Not talking speed or guns. The handleing SEEMS to have changed. Manuvers that were possible gradually became NOT possible.
As to the weapons......... baaahhhh garbage now. 30mm tater gun on the g14 and k4 SEEM to have such a dispurtion you can have your site on a nme at under 200 yds and watch the shot go wide low left or high right or any number of directions but hit the nme plane. I fire only the cannon and not the mg's too!
Don't even THINK about HO'n with the k4. Waste of time. With the limited range and effectiveness of the 30mm your down before you can get in range. So you manuver for a better shot? hmmmm............ Deflection shots with the 30mm are iffy at best due to the dispurtion factor that SEEMS involved. You get the path lined up and then watch the shot go wide. Just missing the plane your firing at. Our it flys between your shots etc etc etc..........
The view IMHO has also gotten more restricted.
I've pretty well decided I WILL NOT particapte in TOD due to the LW planes and how they fly. ONE of the BIG reasons I left WB was the stupid rolling plane set and the LW planes the way they have em are a joke that can't seem to get out of their own way. IMHO AH is rapidly catching up to WB in that catagory. I find it hard to believe that the LW planes were THAT inferior to the allied planes when the allies worked sooo hard to beat em. The reports showing they needed to improve allied rides right up to 1945 to beat the LW say much. IMHO numbers and attrition played a very significant part in the defeat of the LW. Many of the allied planes were pre 1940 designs TOO.
Recently read a report on the g10 vs the p51d done by Brown and the now deceased Hana. Didn't see what had been done to the g10 to make it air worthy, but they reported in their testing that the g10 actually out turned the p51. The p51 was faster.
Was in Flight Journal ..........
http://www.flightjournal.com/fj/store/viewissue.asp?issueid=gerfThe article titled "Flying the 109" by Eric Brown and Mark Hanna.
Not saying the LW was superior but I am saying I don't believe the planes were as bad as they are portrayed in oh so many flight sims.
I also have trouble with the fact that the Spanish used it for sooooo long and it has been refered to so often as "the deadly 109". It has become gradually a very NON-competitive airplane over the introduction of AHII and the patchs applied. Each time something SEEMED to change just slightly and the LW planes SEEMED to handle worse and worse OR some of the allied planes got better. Thinkin a number somewhere got changes a digit or something.
This is not my sim and I'm not the one that has to be concerned about it's income or the path it takes.
Since the last patch IMHO the LW planes are ..... well ............ But what do I know........................
Never mind................
