Collisions

[BALSUR]

What is up with the collisions. I am sick and tired of people ramming and I always die! there's got to be something sone it's absolute BS!

[SkyChimp]

Originally posted by BALSUR
What is up with the collisions. I am sick and tired of people ramming and I always die! there's got to be something sone it's absolute BS!

Well quit trying to ho:aok

[BALSUR]

not just planes, but I like your response:huh, I was in a tiger an a IL2 collides with me twice and I loose a track and he keeps flying. Something seriously wrong when a plane hits a tank and keeps flying IMO!

[Schatzi]

*You* collided with him?

Or did *he* collide with you?



Big difference: see the many 'collision whine' threads.....

[OOZ662]

I hate it when people cry before trying to understand the collision model. There should be an autolock on these threads...

[BALSUR]

When then explain it smart guy. Thats why I posted if you know the answer then tell me.

[Elyeh]

both planes should damage and die, just seems like a better solution than whats going on now

[NHawk]

Originally posted by Elyeh
both planes should damage and die, just seems like a better solution than whats going on now

I agree but it will never happen. To many people whine about who hit who, and who should die. People need to grow up and stop complaining about HOs and collisions. They happened in real combat and they happen now, it's a fact of life.

The next big whine will be flying through parts of the plane they just blew up and taking damage. While it does happen if you do it in real life, people won't like that either.

But Balsur does have a point about the current model. Being hit in a tank by a plane and he takes the damage. That's just wrong. Unless he somehow jumped his tank in the air to intentionally hit the plane. Baalsuurr...is there something you're not telling us?

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by Skuzzy in another, locked, thread

Here is one of the many discussions HT participated in about this topic

The point is: *You* saw his plane fly through you. *He* saw himself fly over your GV (different position of the 4 vehicles due to net speed and data transfer lag).

On his computer he never was close to you. Why should he get damage?

[NHawk]

So the trick is, sit in the driver's seat or main gun so you don't "see" the collision.

Just a joke... but because it's always been a hot topic we need a little levity.

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by NHawk
So the trick is, sit in the driver's seat or main gun so you don't "see" the collision.

Just a joke... but because it's always been a hot topic we need a little levity.

I always squeeze both eyes shut and switch off the monitor.....

[BALSUR]

i understand what your seeing might not be what is happening, but I got the collision message when he hit my tiger.

[OOZ662]

Originally posted by BALSUR
i understand what your seeing might not be what is happening, but I got the collision message when he hit my tiger.

Not on his computer. On yours.

If it were on both he would have gone down.
If it were on his, you would have seen him fly OVER you in pieces.

[viper215]

I think if you hit someone elses plane you should both be hurt.

Lets look at the facts 2 spitfires lets say going 250mph right at each other. No shots are fired they just ram eachother right in the face. THOSE TWO SPITFIRES ARE NOT GOING HOME. If 2 planes collide they should both die or lose a part that will make them die.

Also if they do this it should say you rammed XXXXX so there is no b1tching about who did it. If someone rams someone its both you faults. You cant say someone hit you and its his fault. Its your fault too cause YOUR PLANE WAS IN THE way.

[WMLute]

Originally posted by viper215
I think if you hit someone elses plane you should both be hurt.

Lets look at the facts 2 spitfires lets say going 250mph right at each other. No shots are fired they just ram eachother right in the face. THOSE TWO SPITFIRES ARE NOT GOING HOME. If 2 planes collide they should both die or lose a part that will make them die.

Also if they do this it should say you rammed XXXXX so there is no b1tching about who did it. If someone rams someone its both you faults. You cant say someone hit you and its his fault. Its your fault too cause YOUR PLANE WAS IN THE way.

dunno why this needs to be explained YET again when there is a perfect tool a the top of the page called SEARCH.

but to anwser viper's question.

both people don't SEE the ram.  What you SEE on your computer is not what the people around you SEE.

you SEE a ram, you take damage.  

the guy you rammed doesn't SEE a ram, he sees a near miss so no damage.

it's what your Front End (your computer) sees that matters.

both Front End's SEE a ram, both take damage.  

Only one Front End SEES a ram, only one gets damage.

due to internet lag, what you see and what everybody else sees is different.

Originally posted by hitech
Because if you fly threw a plane, only YOU collided, not what you naturaly assume should be you and the other guy collided.

Because when you refer to BOTH planes you are not taking into account there are in reality 4 planes. 2 on your computer, and 2 on the other guys computer. So when you say both, you are only refering to the 2 on your computer. Because the 2 on the other guys computer did not collide.


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