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Offline deSelys

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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2005, 11:11:01 AM »
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It never ceases to amuse me (it has long since ceased to amaze me) how people will tell you how terrible a job you are doing and how stupid you are, and yet demand you stay and finish the job. This is a PERFECT example.


Nice job of distorting my words to suit your agenda.

I said that you shouldn't have gone to Iraq without a decent plan because you would only make things worse. Now that you've done it anyway, you stay there to clean YOUR mess. Look up my posts from the previous years if you don't believe me.

And, without realizing it as it seems, you're exactly supporting my position in your last post. Read the thread again and you'll finally see the light.


Oh, btw, the nazis were calling the USAF terrorists too. Were they right? I don't think so.

In Iraq, some are terrorists, some are just seeing your intervention as an invasion (and maybe they are manipulated and armed by the former). As the self-proclaimed white knight of freedom, I'm sure that you'll grant them the freedom to defend their country?
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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2005, 11:33:00 AM »
Well, you certainly do amuse me if nothing else.:rofl
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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2005, 12:33:54 PM »
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Of course those who intend to stay the course and finish the job are those you don't like. You know, Bush, Cheney, Blair, Rumsfeld.


finish the job? i doubt they have enough time left. What i wonder is who
are willing to be the next Pres. ? i mean, who would like to clean this ****
the people above left ? Because this people will be on holidays soon anyway... ...but for sure not in a "free-elected" Iraq.
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« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2005, 12:47:48 PM »
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finish the job? i doubt they have enough time left. What i wonder is who
are willing to be the next Pres. ? i mean, who would like to clean this ****
the people above left ? Because this people will be on holidays soon anyway... ...but for sure not in a "free-elected" Iraq.


So.....Ghost, how much did your government pay to get your hostage out of Iraq.

It wasn't Hamadi, was it?   Na......of course not.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/12/20/germany.militant/index.html
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« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2005, 12:56:44 PM »


you let him out for good behavior????


just 23

yep, we see how serious some are against terrorism...
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« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2005, 01:30:39 PM »
The thing that struck me when reading the article is, and this was a mini-epiphany for me, that there are definately americ citizens within the united states that have a deeply vested interest in a total political and military failure in Iraq.  

I can understand france, russia, germany.....having a national desire and in fact a political need to see america fail in and indeed see Iraqi democracy itself fail, but to have americans (like the author of the article I linked) clenching their fists and actively trying to further the potentiol for failure makes me very upset and further solidifies my contemp for the liberal socialist elitist left wing politicos in my country.


Good news: Iraq had a national vote and is on its way to a constitutional government.

Bad news: Iraq is disintegrating

But the thing I appreciate, and the reason I posted the link, is that we all have access to the full menu of news and opinions, and we should read and understand the good with the bad.  The truth with the falsehoods...the half truths and partial distortions...the spin and the non spin.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2005, 01:33:46 PM by Yeager »
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« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2005, 01:58:32 PM »
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germany.....having a national desire and in fact a political need to see america fail


...and seconds later you write this...

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we should read and understand the good with the bad.  The truth with the falsehoods...the half truths and partial distortions...the spin and the non spin.


..how true.
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« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2005, 02:06:56 PM »
..how true.
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You would say Germany has no political or financial interest in a failed american mission in Iraq?
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« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2005, 02:10:00 PM »
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you let him out for good behavior????


just 23

yep, we see how serious some are against terrorism...



Sickening.
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« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2005, 02:10:45 PM »
You know, maybe a split Iraq would be a good thing. Three countries, a pro western Kurdistan. A weakened and small Sunni area and a *****e (edit: shia) area. None of them strong enough to threaten anyone. We wait and see.

If that is the democratic wish of the people then so be it. Whether we like it or not. A lot of people have died so that the Iraqis would have the freedom to choose. You can't make them choose what we would like them for them.

Note on edit: I find it really annoying that *****e is considered a swear word. It's effing ridiculous.
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« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2005, 02:18:14 PM »
the problem with a split iraq is that the sunnis would have the dry useless interior.  The north and the south have the oil fields.

Under such a plan to split Iraq into three smaller countries representing the three basic populations of todays Iraq, the sunnis would have transitioned from the all powerful brutal and wealthy minority to the simple dirtbag poor minority.  The sunnis dont like this concept and are actively engaged in a insurgency to try and prevent that from happening.
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« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2005, 07:35:19 PM »
Why don't we just rename Iraq. If we change it to Kaliphornya the population will start to shift almost immediately from all the illegal immigration..............





























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« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2005, 09:19:55 PM »
I am curious about something.

You folks from other countries who do NOT have people serving in Iraq.

Why do you care?
How has our being in Iraq effected you and your life other then to give excuse to complain about the US being there?
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2005, 12:09:05 AM »
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I am curious about something.

You folks from other countries who do NOT have people serving in Iraq.

Why do you care?
How has our being in Iraq effected you and your life other then to give excuse to complain about the US being there?


Same logic... why should Americans care about the Iraqi people?
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« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2005, 12:39:02 AM »
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Same logic... why should Americans care about the Iraqi people?


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