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Offline StSanta

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Seen the film shot earlier of the F8?
« on: April 13, 2001, 05:44:00 PM »
Man that guy was close. Under and in between two engines.

Wobbling like a heavy P47s, flaps out at 250. heard the US crew comment on it.

This was definitely not the US planes fault.

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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2001, 05:50:00 PM »
We know it wasn't the US plane's fault, Santa.

Mirror-signal-manoever proabably doesn't work up there, especially when you've got some hero trying to mate with your plane.  
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Offline mietla

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2001, 05:55:00 PM »
is it available on the web, or do I need to watch TV?
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TheWobble

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2001, 07:49:00 PM »
Thee chinese seem to want the 8 and the P-3 to screw almost as bad as their pandas        
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2001, 03:01:00 AM »
dang i saw the video today finally..man he was so close you culd almost read the serial number on whatever outdated looking missles he was carrying..

He also made several passes where he would "thump" the plane with he exhaust..yea wang screwed up pretty bad...

Given the methods of "diciplin" the Chinese have for screwups..especally thos costing expensive aircraft..if Wang had survived and landed, he probably wouldent have lived very long any way...in fact he probably had the easy way out....but then i wont be suprised if his wife and kids vanished soon either..


the EP-3 was about as at fault as a house who has a car jump the curb and slams into it...



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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2001, 07:54:00 AM »
If you're speaking about the vid where he gets within 20 feet, his wings are wobbling and the pilot struggles at the slow speed, this video is from a January encounter and not the collision.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2001, 09:20:00 AM »
Yea i know sandman, but that really goes to show how and more importantly WHY the "accident" happened..

The Chi-coms saying that it was the US's fault in the face of such obvious and clear cut evidence is really making an bellybutton of it self...

I guess the only difference is that unlike with their own citizens they cant murder us for knowing what really happened.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2001, 09:53:00 AM »
Well, the Chinese had 11 days to put out their version.

Here's a link to Secretary of Defense briefing:
 http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Apr2001/t04132001_t0413ep3.html
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2001, 01:43:00 PM »
Heh Toad speaking of Chinese version, watched their local broadcast last night, and checked people's daily today, funny there is no mention whatsoever of any film footage eh?
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2001, 02:39:00 PM »
Fatty,

I'm sure it was just an oversight. I'm sure they'll be showing the film and explaining to their nation that straight ahead rejoins with 200 knots of overtake and stopping right between engines 1 & 2 are the standard ICAO intercept procedures.  


Come to think of it the "Blame America First" lobby around here has been pretty quiet as well. Maybe they missed the Rumsfield briefing and video too?

 
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2001, 09:51:00 PM »
I was rather offened that the Ep-3 was taking the blame. It would seem obvious, yet somehow the people of China believed the USA was at fault. My first thought was that maybe the average citizen didn't understand the international airspace agreement and felt that surveylance "spying" was just unfair and that by being there that it was USA's fault. However, this is just the beginning of what could be some rought contacts between China and the USA in future. What amazes me is that several years ago China had sea exercises off  Taiwan which closed Taiwans major ports for days. The result was a stock market down turn felt around the world.

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2001, 10:03:00 PM »
 
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that maybe the average citizen didn't understand the international airspace agreement

Actually the average citizen is so brainwashed by the gov that they will believe anything...especally considering the alternative.
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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2001, 11:54:00 PM »
Wobble-

How many "average Chinese" do you know?

Just curious.
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TheWobble

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2001, 12:06:00 AM »
Well Kieren one doesent have to know and chinese to see that most blindly believe whatever theie "goverment" tell them.  

Have you seen any of the things they put in Chinese kids school books about the US?? they are raised:
A: to hate the US and all it stands for.
B: to have unwavering unquestioning blind faith in everything the Gov says and does.

I ll dig some of it up for ya and you will se what im talking about.
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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2001, 12:15:00 AM »
Does it occur to you that you might be a victim of the same type of propaganda system? Not saying you are, and I dearly love my country, but surely you must realize there is manipulation of the masses through our media too, right?

Me, I never met a Chinese communist, nor a Russian one for that matter. Still, I am pretty sure the average Russian and Chinese is a pretty decent fellow. I can't back that up, of course.

Point is our government lies to us, too. We fall for it occasionally- some more than others. Don't think any country has the market cornered on propaganda.  
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