killing buffs

[Mustaine]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
...WEP on and then at 1000 yards I nose down under the bomber, fishtail a bit to throw off any guns...

and some other good stuff...

yeah i do that to, sometimes on a fakey attack, sometimes i shoot, depending on what the bomber does.

it's all about knowing these different strategies, and piecing them together, improvising an attack so it is not the same 2 times in a row.

[iluvu2]

Best shot I can think of  is 10 and 2 positions.   I climb up dive down on bombers 10 or 2   fire 400 out    dive down  back up 3k above repeat. Never been shot down with this attack..

[tatertot]

Shawk schooled me well last nighthis is the hi alt 400 mph 45 degree angle from my six he got his best hit in looped up and over to high alt and gained speed and momentum and hit me again best i could do was smoke his engine possibly pilot wounded him also


had some other guys tag team us at 112 i think never dropped a egg all night but i did get some great film to study:D  


maybe tonight they wont be so lucky:aok

[JTs]

ride shotgun for cody. you will learn  to kill the fighters fast or he will get in a gun and steal your kill (lol)

[tatertot]

lol jts seems he and 999 should hook up huh:rofl

[SkyChimp]

Originally posted by Lan784
Ok i fly buffs in AH as a career...check the sig why.


The best buff killer is the 109G-14 cause of its cannons and also speed to get in front of the bomber quickly to set up his attack. Also 110s,N1K,262s,163s, and La5s and 7s.

The best angle is from the front upper left or right corners of the bomber. Aim for the wings. Also aonther good attack is from the side., its a good way to get all 3 bombers in 1 pass.NEVER EVER ATTACK FROM THE 6!!! U WILL DIE!!thats how i kill 262s so much


The best pilot is the smartess there is no better pilot than anyone else that can do this better.The smart ones will follow these tatics and not get killed. Paticence is a VERY KEY FACTOR!!. Look guys to whom are impatcient, those bombers AINT GOIN ANY WHERE!! take ur time and u will not die and they will.

Oh thats a damn lie!!!:furious




Everybody knows 51d kills buffs better...


And your sigs too long..

[Grits]

Originally posted by tatertot
ok after extensive research  you guys tell me what is 1)the best buff killer 2) THE BEST ANGLES 3) and who does this the best and why????

The best way to kill buffs is to vulch them on the ground before they can get wheels up. Any type of fighter will do.

[Krusty]

Yeah, that doesn't work too well in the dweeby llama-filled MA. I was over a suppressed field and thought WOOHOO! Some fool upped a b24! Easy kill! So I fire a shot on the big b24 sitting on end of runway, and kill-shooter myself because it was some lame-arse friendly that landed there to spawn-kill planes taking off.

Don't vulch 'em til you see the icon, which means they're already up.

[Larry]

Heres a clip of how I mostly attack buffs. The clip is slowed down to show how much damage a B17 in this game can take.

[nazgulAX]

I fly buffs a fair amount and think the best thing to do is come from dead 6...level...pull up to about 400 off his 6 .... don't fire, as it will only serve to let him know your there,  I'm sure he wont be looking around in the outside view, and didn't see you coming from 8k away. when the buff fires at you.....just stay level, or zig zag abit while spraying all over the sky..... Theres no sense in trying to rtb with a pilot wound or half a wing or whatever severe damage you have by now, so just bail out....rinse and repeat.

[999000]

Part of the rational for NEO buffs is simply survival.....we don't have multiple  gunners like in AW...that was fun......don't offten have group of bomber guys flying in formations together.. and even more rare is fighter pilots who  will escort a bomber formation..although Monti is the best at this!
So for survival being undeteched by flying Noe and taking away the hard drop attack from 12  you can see for bomber pilots this becomes attactive....you still have to take your chances with ack and gv's ..

999000

[crowMAW]

Tater...had a chance to film some buff killn today.  Crow vs the HQ raid:

Jug vs Buffs.zip

And here is an older one that I found in my film archives:

Pony vs B24.zip

[Grits]

Originally posted by Krusty
Yeah, that doesn't work too well in the dweeby llama-filled MA. I was over a suppressed field and thought WOOHOO! Some fool upped a b24! Easy kill! So I fire a shot on the big b24 sitting on end of runway, and kill-shooter myself because it was some lame-arse friendly that landed there to spawn-kill planes taking off.

Don't vulch 'em til you see the icon, which means they're already up.

Clearly your vulching skills are weak, I dont make n00b mistakes like that because i r teh 1337 vu1c3r.  

[gatt]

crowMAW,

very nice films, very good use of patience and of those 0.50s

Krusty,

that was the use of the Pony and the Jug (in the occasional anti-bomber role) I was referring to in the 109K-4's 30mm v/s gondolas thread. You can see how good is a ~2sec burst of 8x0.50 on a wing or tail.

[shegotya]

Originally posted by 999000
Don't know what I can add been killed by everyone with everything..including trees and mountains!..Betty says my name..I dead ..any of the UNFORGIVEN look my way my B17 immediatly burst into flames!    Ak's take my cookies my formation explodes!..but it all doesn't matter..what matters is I"m a MEMBER OF THE SHEGOTYA FAN CLUB!...so everything is good!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously I agree the  "shawk" attack dropping like a rock is best!!!..tough to even get a few hits on this kind of attack!   I disagre with the HO on a buff don't mind that attack at all unless it again is a high 12 attack..that tough again.
One thing not talked about is a coordinated attack by two or more fighters ..this again is very tough..and to survive takes good SA, luck ,and ability to hit a fighter on the way out from the bomber attack
999000

WELL SAID 9's and 0's !!!


X's and O's from me to you!!