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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2006, 10:15:33 PM »
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Iraq also traded oil in Euros. They were actually the first country to switch from the Dollar. What a strange ... "coincidence".



And look at all the other countries that trade in Euros. The US attacked them all because, well.....because.

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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2006, 10:26:00 PM »
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Iraq also traded oil in Euros. They were actually the first country to switch from the Dollar. What a strange ... "coincidence".


Was Iraq bribed with Euros as well?  You know from the UN.....you know that whole oil for food thingy that Iraq blamed on the US for killing babies?

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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2006, 10:29:02 PM »
I heard Kofi Annan's son has a nice Mercedes.

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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2006, 10:44:21 PM »
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They are run by radical nutjobs.


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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2006, 10:57:40 PM »
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Iraq also traded oil in Euros. They were actually the first country to switch from the Dollar. What a strange ... "coincidence".


They were threatening to do it if I remember correctly, but even if it is in our best interest for them to trade in US dollars, what would it matter? Iraq will do what's right for Iraq. If the euro was stronger they would have already switched, along with the rest of the middle east, no?
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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2006, 11:27:43 PM »
Sadly, just like many other tyranical nations before, Iran will probably succeed in joining the nuke club.  With their current presidents ramblings and what not it is a probability that they might use them.  This will all be made possible by politics.

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« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2006, 02:18:57 AM »
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Fine. we will let the French, russians and germans handle this one.


French, Russians and the Germans?
Your jokeing right?

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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2006, 03:50:45 AM »
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They were threatening to do it if I remember correctly, but even if it is in our best interest for them to trade in US dollars, what would it matter? Iraq will do what's right for Iraq. If the euro was stronger they would have already switched, along with the rest of the middle east, no?


The € is stronger than the $, but that is irrelevant. The oil trade wants a stable currency to trade in, and the $ has been anything but stable the last few years. But then again, with the example you made of Iraq I don’t think many Middle Eastern countries will switch oil currency anytime soon.
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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2006, 04:19:20 AM »
I doubt theres going to be attack considering I can't see the British being involved in any kind of occupation of Iran. Of course "surgical strikes" might stop weapons production, but surely won't do anything except piss off a large population of potential nutbags just off the border of Iraq...Iranian hardliners are a forgiving type..

...interestingly enough all this hype about an attack does give Iran a legitimate exscuse to pre-emptive strike first at an actual threat to its safety doesn't it?

-It won't even need to bother about a broad international mandate and it doesn't even have to rule out the use of nuclear weapons...that kind of talk is common nowdays..

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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2006, 06:02:18 AM »
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...interestingly enough all this hype about an attack does give Iran a legitimate exscuse to pre-emptive strike first at an actual threat to its safety doesn't it?

-It won't even need to bother about a broad international mandate and it doesn't even have to rule out the use of nuclear weapons...that kind of talk is common nowdays..

 Tronsky


Very true.  If Iran were to follow their intelligence it would point that way.  I can just see a long stand off though I wouldn't trust Israel with nukes either.

I recently read about Israel's involvement in helping Argentina during the Falklands War.... even the French helped the UK during preparations.  So if Israel wanna take on Iran's S-300s then let them do it alone.
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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2006, 06:03:51 AM »
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-- "This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table," Bush said in Brussels last February.


hmmm ....

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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2006, 07:44:39 AM »
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So if Israel wanna take on Iran's S-300s then let them do it alone.


I feel that Israel will hit Iran's nuclear facilities before too long. Sure, the global community will complain about it but will silently breathe a sigh of relief, and in the future will accept it was the right thing to do.

Wait, that happened with Iraqi nuclear plant... deja vu anyone?
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2006, 10:17:12 AM »
It's not unlikely that the USA will invade Iran at some point in the next 5 years. Whether it will because of Iran's perceived nuclear capability, or whether there is some other ulterior motive remains to be seen.

The USA is facing an energy crisis, as those people living in California know only too well. The supply of non-OPEC oil for electricity generation is in decline, with liquefied natural gas (LNG) now finding favour as the fuel for electrical power plants. Since 1999 in the USA alone, an additional 220,000 megawatts of gas fired power capacity has been built, and will meet approximately 30% of US demand for electrical power. US demand for natural gas is expected to rise by another 50% in the next 15 years!

But there's a problem. Only about 2% of the world's stock of natural gas can be found in North America. Mexico is lending the USA a helping hand, having built a gas fired power plant near Mexicali, just three miles south of the US border. But no way was the prime purpose of that facility to provide power to Mexico. For one thing, Mexicans could not afford the infrastructure cost. And they wouldn't need the amount of power it generates. No, the power being produced by that plant is routed to Arizona and southern California via the Southwest Powerlink.

Oil is becoming too expensive. LNG might provide the breathing space we need. The problem for the USA is that much of the world's supply of gas is located in countries not sympathetic with American interests. More than HALF the world's gas reserves are to be found in two countries: Russia and................ Iran.

Just this week, Russia has been persuaded to backpedal on its stance of having turned off the gas supply to Europe, which runs through a pipeline passing through Ukraine, a move designed to penalise Ukraine for failing to comply with a Russian initiative to quadruple the price of gas. Under western pressure, Russia has backed down. Clearly, the Russians are going to be easier to deal with than certain hostile regimes.

Which brings us to Iran, a country with a very poor record history of diplomatic relations with the US. Would the USA invade Iran to safeguard a supply of natural gas? Well, America won't admit to it, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. Just as the "war on terror" afforded America an excuse to invade Iraq on a pretext which was shown not to exist, Iran's perceived nuclear capability might serve as the perfect smokescreen and provide a justification to invade Iran, while the real reason for invasion might be something different.

Sorry to appear cynical, but after the Bush/Blair snowjob over Iraq, I don't see why the reason(s) given to invade Iran will be any less dishonest.

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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2006, 10:47:38 AM »
This is what was printed in a local (singapore) paper a week or so ago. Since I have to retype it, I will paraphrase..

... When Mr Ahmadinejad adrressed the Un in NY last Septemeber, he suddenly felt himself surrounded by light. It was not the stage lighting, he said, but light from heaven. He related his other worldly experience in videotaped meeting with a prominent ayatollah in Teheran. A transcript of his comments and sections of the vidotape wound up on a hardline pro regime website, baztab.com

...His "vision"at the UN could be dismissed as potlitical posturing if it were not for a string of similar statements that suggest that he believes he is destined to bring about the "end times"- the end of the world -by the paving the return of a Shia Muslim messiah.

.... In a Nov 16 speech in Teheran to senior clerics the new President said the main mission of his govenment was to "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Iman Mahdi" the 12th Imam.


....Since taking office, he has installed devotees of the 12th Imam throughout the government and sidelined moderates.

end of paraphrasing.

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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2006, 01:02:41 PM »
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The € is stronger than the $, but that is irrelevant. The oil trade wants a stable currency to trade in, and the $ has been anything but stable the last few years. But then again, with the example you made of Iraq I don’t think many Middle Eastern countries will switch oil currency anytime soon.


And the euro is stable? Yeah, right, the middle east is won't switch because they are afraid we will attack? lol, no, they don't switch because of the money they make from us and the welfare checks we send their neighbors
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