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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2006, 03:35:34 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2006, 03:41:58 PM »
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If anyone could be considered an "expert" when it comes to the SpitV, its Leviathn.  I'd take his word on anything regarding it's changes in performance and firepower.  

That said, anyone who's a decent shot should be able to bag at least 1 kill, more likely 2 with just the .303's.  

Heck, I'd still love to see HTC put out a Hurri IIb.  I'd never fly anything else.  :)



dmf an expert? didnt i just say..... something about not believing a bk in some other thread?

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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2006, 03:43:01 PM »
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That said, anyone who's a decent shot should be able to bag at least 1 kill, more likely 2 with just the .303's.  

Heck, I'd still love to see HTC put out a Hurri IIb.  I'd never fly anything else.  :)


Ummm, in a hermetically sealed 1 vs. 1 situation perhpas, but riding the 'saddle' for the requisite 10 seconds, pecking away with .303's isn't practical in a furball. You'll get picked off long before you peck away enough control surfaces to down the guy...

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« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2006, 03:47:15 PM »
I beg to differ sir.  10 seconds?  Bwahahaha.  The 4x.303 in the SpitV are perfectly capable of taking off a wing in one pass at convergence.  2 second burst.

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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2006, 03:49:24 PM »
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I beg to differ sir.  10 seconds?  Bwahahaha.  The 4x.303 in the SpitV are perfectly capable of taking off a wing in one pass at convergence.  2 second burst.


You're a better shot than me then. Good Luck with that! I can't even take off a wing with 6 X 50cals that easily. What's your in-game CPID? I want to see how many sorties you had last camp in the SpitV and what your Hit % was, maybe you need to be training me in gunnery. ;)



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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2006, 03:52:27 PM »
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Heck, I'd still love to see HTC put out a Hurri IIb.  I'd never fly anything else.  :)

IIb? That the one they tried 12 303s in?
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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2006, 03:54:33 PM »
You can hit stuff with those POS guns on the ground, and you'd consider me a good shot?  I think my gunnery skills stink.  Right now I'm sitting at around 7-8%.  If I concentrate on gunnery, I can get my hit % up to 12 or 13%.  It usually hovers around 10.  

That means I miss 90% of the time.  

That sucks.

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2006, 03:55:38 PM »
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IIb? That the one they tried 12 303s in?


Yeah.  12 x .303 guns will shred just about anything, I dont care what it is.  :)

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« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2006, 03:56:05 PM »
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You can hit stuff with those POS guns on the ground, and you'd consider me a good shot?  I think my gunnery skills stink.  Right now I'm sitting at around 7-8%.  If I concentrate on gunnery, I can get my hit % up to 12 or 13%.  It usually hovers around 10.  

That means I miss 90% of the time.  

That sucks.


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« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2006, 03:58:33 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2006, 04:08:31 PM »
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Problem with the spit 16 is that most come in high like the lgay7.  However even though the spit 16 is fast it can out turn just about anything up against it unlike the lgay7 which you can out turn.


P.S. Dont know if just me but seems like the spit 16s guns are like his has 4 hispanos.  Never seemed like that spit 9 could ensue the kind of damage that the spit 16 can ensue.



I still say the Spit IX is the better of the two even on the deck in a fight.  Mars and I have run into each other a few times and it's been just about dead even.  I think the last three times, Dedelos came through in a Tiffie and blew me away twice and one of my squaddies came through and got Mars the other time.

Keeping in mind what a lousy pilot I am, I think that IX just flies smoother then the XVI and I'm a clipped wing Spit fan.  The hitting power seems about the same too overall.  Then again I'm a lousy shot too :)

Biggest thing is I just can't worry about how or what the other guys are flying.  I just have to deal with it.  Last night the brawl we had with the mob on the deck was an absolute blast.  And we were all in 38s on the deck against Spits, Yaks, LA7s etc.  Out numbered and outgunned, it was as much fun as I've had in a while, and I finally got picked in the end.

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« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2006, 04:27:42 PM »
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The Hurri IIC is the closest to the previous version of the Spit V ... only real difference is the views in the Hurri are horrendous compared to the V and the Hurri has (I believe) 14lb boost compare to the previous V's 16lb boost ... outside of that ... they Hurri has the feeling of the old Spit V ... at least to me.

The cannons do kick bellybutton ... just wish there were more of 'em ...  ;)



I beg to differ on that. After flying the Hurricane for weeks (Mk2C in those days ;)) i got back in a Spit5 and kept stalling all over the place. The handling of the Spit is a LOT jumpier and more skitterish - especially close to the edge at low speeds and when using rudder generously. Also the Spit retains E a whole lot better than the Hurri. You can actually BnZ in a Spit, whereas a Hurri has lost 70% of its alt after the first dive (without even turning). and on top speeds the Hurri gets beat again (even with the now 'porked' Spit5)
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« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2006, 04:32:13 PM »
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Ummm, in a hermetically sealed 1 vs. 1 situation perhpas, but riding the 'saddle' for the requisite 10 seconds, pecking away with .303's isn't practical in a furball. You'll get picked off long before you peck away enough control surfaces to down the guy...

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Uhhh... where do all my kills come from then??


YES, you can get 1-2 kills with the 303s of a spitty. All you need to do is be patient until youre very very close and have a chance for a cockpit shot. And a 2-3 sec burst into pilot from d150 WILL kill him if your convergence is all in to 150-175. Those 303s are *ugly* at convergence, i guess just by sheer numbers (highest rate of fire IIRC).
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« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2006, 08:33:35 PM »
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Uhhh... where do all my kills come from then??


YES, you can get 1-2 kills with the 303s of a spitty. All you need to do is be patient until youre very very close and have a chance for a cockpit shot. And a 2-3 sec burst into pilot from d150 WILL kill him if your convergence is all in to 150-175. Those 303s are *ugly* at convergence, i guess just by sheer numbers (highest rate of fire IIRC).


Like I said, I have no doubt doing what you just described is theoretically possible. All I am saying is in a complex multi-plane engagement (ie: a furball) you will be cherry picked long before you get a chance to creep in that close on someone and hammer away with .303s 9 times out of 10. They are not a very practical armament in the typical MA environment..Relying on them for kills and saying that somehow redeems the nuetered SpitV to some kind of usefullness is also not reasonable.

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« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2006, 08:51:39 PM »
The Hurricane is simultaneously the best and worst fighter that AH has to offer.
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