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Offline Badboy

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« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2006, 09:23:00 PM »
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And I've had 26 kills with no rearms in the old Spit V with 240 rounds of 20mm.


Very impressive!

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« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2006, 10:08:07 PM »
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The Hurricane is simultaneously the best and worst fighter that AH has to offer.


You is wrong:p

P-40B

Worst

Plane

Ever

Period

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« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2006, 10:16:06 PM »
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You is wrong:p

P-40B

Worst

Plane

Ever

Period

:p


But it is not the best and worst. Come to think of it, it's not even the worst.
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« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2006, 10:47:27 PM »
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Very impressive!


Yeah, but I didn't land it.  :)

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« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2006, 12:11:59 AM »
Why so few Jug fans?

That thing's a monster when flown properly.
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« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2006, 12:13:12 AM »
The sad truth: Because it doesn't have cannon. Because it isn't an instant-kill-monster like the spit16 and la7. That's why.

Doesn't mean it's not a good plane (in fact I think it's too good), it just means that nobody wants to work for their kills these days.
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« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2006, 12:37:10 AM »
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Why so few Jug fans?

That thing's a monster when flown properly.


<---P-47D-11   20 kills,   P-47N   87 kills  <95% all air to air worked for kills

Yea it is . its too bad its 8 x 50 cals are so under modeled .

as far as the spit 16 goes id say perk it like a chog ..
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« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2006, 01:36:54 AM »
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It now has half the cannon ammo load, therefore about 1/2 the potential kills/sortie therefore is castrated.

I am not saying it should have more ammo or a better engine, i just found its declining use interesting in that it has gone from being the dominant Spitfire variant to being outclassed by a porked Mosquito.


the old Spit V is now the VIII IMHO
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« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2006, 01:43:44 AM »
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I still say the Spit IX is the better of the two even on the deck in a fight. Mars and I have run into each other a few times and it's been just about dead even. I think the last three times, Dedelos came through in a Tiffie and blew me away twice and one of my squaddies came through and got Mars the other time.
Yeah the IX is alot like the XVI in many ways, but it takes a better pilot to fly the IX in the weeds.  (Thats why I'm usually in the XVI LOL :D)

The greatest thing about the spits is their ability to allow a pilot to stay just inside or outside of an enemies kill shot, by flying just a little harder without snap stalling into the ground.  

For me the IX and XVI are the same and a great match up 1 on 1 and outnumbered 2 or 3 Vs 1.  But 4 and up Vs 1 the XVI has a little bit of an edge on the IX.

Those fights were great Guppy!  The last several days of December were great!  There were a lot of good fights and a lot of good action.  I hope it is a trend  that will continue in the MA.

Someone posted in another thread that is quite aprapo...

Something like - The good pilots worry about what plane they are fighting against, the great pilots worry about what pilot they are up against.
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« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2006, 01:46:35 AM »
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Why so few Jug fans?

That thing's a monster when flown properly.
No doubt - It's a flying buzz saw when you get those 8 50s lined up.  I'm a big fan of the Jugs.
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« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2006, 03:03:33 AM »
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And I've had 26 kills with no rearms in the old Spit V with 240 rounds of 20mm. What's your point? Anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything.
:O

Oh for the love of god I cant even get more than 5 !()&*(#&*(!&@ kills in a (^!@&*(#Y&*(!@^& N1k with 450 *!@&(^!@)*$ rounds of )*!_#*$@#*!@#*20mm :furious

Levi I realise that 26 in spit 5 is not the norm but its FAAARKING AWSOME

If you dont mind would you give me some pointers on how you improved your skills:
- Gunnery (with 26 kills in a spit 5 this has to be important)
- SA
- Know you ACM's  
- Know when to use and ACM's
- Know your Plane
- Know your NME

Did you
- Watch films of your fights
- Practice with squadies
- Trial and error

I dont consider myself a noob but I sure as hell aint no Ace, I have downed multiple bogies in F4u-1's and FM2's but Sometimes I think my results are more dependant on the targets skill than mine.

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« Reply #71 on: January 05, 2006, 03:27:32 AM »
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Originally posted by mussie
D.M.F. quote:
 :O

Oh for the love of god I cant even get more than 5 !()&*(#&*(!&@ kills in a (^!@&*(#Y&*(!@^& N1k with 450 *!@&(^!@)*$ rounds of )*!_#*$@#*!@#*20mm :furious

Levi I realise that 26 in spit 5 is not the norm but its FAAARKING AWSOME

If you dont mind would you give me some pointers on how you improved your skills:
- Gunnery (with 26 kills in a spit 5 this has to be important)
- SA
- Know you ACM's  
- Know when to use and ACM's
- Know your Plane
- Know your NME

Did you
- Watch films of your fights
- Practice with squadies
- Trial and error

I dont consider myself a noob but I sure as hell aint no Ace, I have downed multiple bogies in F4u-1's and FM2's but Sometimes I think my results are more dependant on the targets skill than mine.

We have a Leviafan.

:D
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« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2006, 03:30:07 AM »
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rolling planesets... there I said it...

again


 back!! back demon!! back to the CT with you!!!

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« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2006, 03:32:15 AM »
Arghhhh Bite Me Stang

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« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2006, 03:37:07 AM »
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Like I said, I have no doubt doing what you just described is theoretically possible. All I am saying is in a complex multi-plane engagement (ie: a furball) you will be cherry picked long before you get a chance to creep in that close on someone and hammer away with .303s 9 times out of 10. They are not a very practical armament in the typical MA environment..Relying on them for kills and saying that somehow redeems the nuetered SpitV to some kind of usefullness is also not reasonable.

Zazen



Actually, im mostly in the weeds down low and outnumbered. Its my favorite poison, furballing outnumbered in a 'inferior' plane. I usually fly more on the defensive side. Meaning i try to evade all opponents as best as possible, all the while checking my gunsight every now and then if theres something in front of it.

And i never said the 303s are very practical or even a smart thing in the MA.... but it CAN be done, even by a mediocre pilot like me.

Bigger and faster isnt always better. Use the speed and the confidence of the late war planes against them. Youll be surprised. But its a whole different flying and fighting style, that you have to like (and you probably need some sort of masochist streak as well).



I think the key is 'get up close and personal'. I rarely shoot from further then d200. Even in cannon or CAL50 armed planes. Half Second bursts. You ammo will last forever.


PS: Ive won 3-4 (110s) vs 1 (admittedly 8 303s, not 4).
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