Author Topic: Difference between Aces High and Warbirds? (Read 2774 times)

Krusty · « **Reply #45 on:** January 05, 2006, 10:30:49 PM »

The way WB handled input sucked. AH has an immensely better control/input capability, and it's all built in! There was no "trim" in WB, you had a rudder indicator on the top of your gunsight and it NEVER was centered, requiring constant input (and on twisty sticks that blows, big time). The flight model wasn't so hot, the physics were limited. Ammo loads were listed as values from 0 to 100 (as a percentage) and if you had more than 100 rounds you would fire a lot of rounds before the number ever changed.

The bullets and gunnery model sucked big time. The terrain and visuals are so much better, it's like the difference between AW DOS and WB2.7, but involving WB2.7 and AH2.

WB, regardless of how complicated it was to install/run, regardless of how poorly it was run by iMOL, regardless of how many people play it, is simply inferior to AH. It's like Jane's USNF '97 compared to Falcon 4.0.

wipass · « **Reply #46 on:** January 06, 2006, 02:18:16 AM »

The single largest difference between the two is the control movements "built in" lag in in WB.

There is a delay in every stick movement you make, ostensibly to remove stick stirring and micro warps but it sure is a pain.

4 years in WB's and 2 here, Whilst there are parts of AH that don't compare to WB's I would say that AH is the best all round sim available.

wipass

Cooley · « **Reply #47 on:** January 06, 2006, 02:19:47 AM »

I flew WB2 for a few years,and WB3 for about a year 97-01
The Only thing i thought WB's did better then AH was Events and Trainers

Nothing against our Trainers or Event planners here,
but in WB you could count on Daddy or Couger or Tech being in the TA often, and really being able to learn some advaced ACM.
as far as Event's,,,we have alot,,,,but hardly anyone shows up,
we have alot less players in AH that like to recreate historical battles IMO

and I also like how some of the best fighter squads would fly escort for the Buff squads on a regular basis, and there were many Bomber sqds that flew formation and were organized and well respected,,,,,
things we dont often see here

I also feel that having ingame moderators in WB's was better then whatever we have here,,people seemed to treat each other a bit better.
with that said,i realize there are a ton of more players here,,,,so more bad apples

But that was a long time ago...

AH is the game to play now, I would never go back

If ya go in there,,tell 550th Tigertails i said hello

Flayed1 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 06, 2006, 03:13:39 AM »

Ok a little off topic but I saw someone mention Blue Max on the C64 and have to say I loved that game. I still have it on one of those 5.25 disks somewhere. I have 3 working C64's at my disposal now and have thought about them often.

Back on topic, I havent flown in WB but I downloaded AH, what abou 2.5 to 3 years ago and was so impressed I got it onto my friends computers and we would play it on lan 4 player. We loved it.
I finally tryed the online version for my free 2 weeks and I told my wife if she would let me pay $15 a month for AH I would stop smokeing.
In 2 weeks I had stoped smokeing totally.
If WB can keep you that intrested that you can forget about some kind of addiction then go for it but my money is on AH.
I am now wing leader of the Birds of Prey Merlins and my brother has joined up. If you try the AH2 2 week trial and are in bishland go to voice chan 182 and we'll help. If you like knite or Rook I'll bet there are squads there willing to help out learning the game. and good luck

P.S. AH is the BEST

Tangogulf · « **Reply #49 on:** January 06, 2006, 09:43:11 AM »

Again, thanks for the great replies. Nice to hear the meat and potatoes of why it is better. I wasn't really looking for which is better, but the differences between the two. Looks like I got both and itll be AH that I try.

Having said that I feel like it was a major accomplishment because I got my HOTAS set up. Rudder peddles are a little sensitive, but Ill work on it.

ghostdancer · « **Reply #50 on:** January 06, 2006, 11:11:16 AM »

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as far as Event's,,,we have alot,,,,but hardly anyone shows up,
we have alot less players in AH that like to recreate historical battles IMO

Ahem.

I think if you hook up with one of the squads for Friday Night Squad Ops you will find that we have about 200 players showing up to fight historical battles (one life events).

Basically FSO run 3 friday nights and then take one off and starts a new FSO.

Current FSO is the USN in 1944 hitting the IJAAF facilities on Mindano.

vorlon · « **Reply #51 on:** January 06, 2006, 11:48:04 AM »

Hello everybody

I currently still play Warbirds ( someone has too !! ) and I did play Aces High a few years ago:) I have just downloaded the latest version of AH so in a few weeks I will let you know what happens!
Must admit that a big reason for trying AH again is the low numbers now in WB and lack of updates

Look forward to seeing you all soon....and be gentle with me

ghostdancer · « **Reply #52 on:** January 06, 2006, 11:54:03 AM »

vorlon and don't worry we will shoot the shoft fuzzy 20mm channon shells at you.

Catch you up in the virtual skies.

WMLute · « **Reply #53 on:** January 06, 2006, 12:32:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Cooley

as far as Event's,,,we have alot,,,,but hardly anyone shows up,
we have alot less players in AH that like to recreate historical battles IMO

The Wed Night SnapShot's typically have 30-50 players in them week in, week out. Lately, if we only get 30-35 players, I consider it a light turnout, and THAT is as many or more than are in the main arena in WB for prime time. Not bad eh?

Come fly the Wed Night, and Thur. day SnapShots. LOTS of fun, and pretty decent numbers. I would like to see it grow to 50-80 players per week.

Enduro · « **Reply #54 on:** January 06, 2006, 04:08:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Tangogulf
Again, thanks for the great replies. Nice to hear the meat and potatoes of why it is better. I wasn't really looking for which is better, but the differences between the two. Looks like I got both and itll be AH that I try.

Having said that I feel like it was a major accomplishment because I got my HOTAS set up. Rudder peddles are a little sensitive, but Ill work on it.

Kiss the rest of your life goodbye.

ALF · « **Reply #55 on:** January 06, 2006, 05:13:45 PM »

This threads begining has got to be the funnies true thing Ive heard in years.

daddog · « **Reply #56 on:** January 06, 2006, 05:29:01 PM »

I choked on a wheat thin when I read your reply HiTech.

Laughed for 5 minutes after I had my color back.

Tangogulf just call. At AH you talk to people, in fact they pick up the phone.

vorlon · « **Reply #57 on:** January 18, 2006, 01:45:04 AM »

Just to let you all know that I have been "playing" Aces High now for about a week, and I have ventured online a couple of times

Big to everyone I met and who said hello, thanks guys.
When my 2 weeks trial is up I will be signing on here full time!
I will still be playing the other one, as I still have a few squad mates over there, but I am impressed with AH's changes since my last time ( about 2 years ago ) so will be frequenting here more
Congrats all

JAWS2003 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 18, 2006, 08:50:00 AM »

FB+AEP+PF is The Pwn.

Amen:p

Karnak · « **Reply #59 on:** January 18, 2006, 10:18:58 AM »

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Originally posted by JAWS2003
FB+AEP+PF is The Pwn.

Amen:p

The (quasi)words you use to express that tells me more than enough to know I should avoid it.