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« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2006, 02:09:23 PM »
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But how close are we to having a plane that can, for example, fly from London to  Melbourne nonstop with ~400 passengers aboard?
 

Closer than you think, though not that many passengers. The 777-200LR will be able to carry 250+, and thats what Quantas wants.

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But Qantas is one of several major international airlines that are considering Boeing's new 777-200LR, which Wednesday and Thursday flew further nonstop than any jetliner ever has before. The new Boeing 301-seater could easily make London-Sydney nonstop, with as many as 250 passengers, according to Boeing.

The air distance direct from London to Sydney is about 10,600 miles. The nonstop flight would likely take about 19 hours.

It's the retrun trip to London, against the winds that's the problem. That flight could last up to 21 hours or more. So Qantas has been talking with Boeing about tweaking the 777-200LR's impressive range even more. Boeing is looking at adding up to three additional fuel tanks in the plane's belly, for a total of six.


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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2006, 04:40:04 PM »
Man I hope the ain't a traditional coach class on that plane.  Image sitting 20hrs in coach.  now image doing it when you're a stereotypical drunken Aussie.  If 3 tanks takes them the 1st 19 hrs of the trip, then probably only 1 additional tank is needed for the added 2hrs.  The other two tanks they're adding, one is for Foster's the other ether

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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2006, 05:10:31 PM »
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Closer than you think, though not that many passengers. The 777-200LR will be able to carry 250+, and thats what Quantas wants.
Hmmmm I didn't see this in the fleet news on the Qantas website just now, but I did see that they intend to purchase up to 115 B787 aircraft. http://www.qantas.com.au/info/boeing787

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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2006, 05:22:01 PM »
Qantas was one of the first to order A-380's too.

They plan on flying them LA-Melbourne and LA-Sydney last I heard.
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2006, 05:52:29 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2006, 12:27:54 AM »
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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2006, 06:21:15 AM »
More news from Qantas. Ripsnort, how does this sit with the development of 777-200LR?

From the Qantas newsroom

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Qantas Decides Against "Hub-Busters"
   
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Qantas Airways said today it had been unable to find an aircraft that could operate non-stop flights economically between Australia and London and Australia and New York.

Qantas had sought tenders from Airbus Industries and the Boeing Company for ultra-long range variants of the Airbus A340 and Boeing 777 as part of its current fleet plan.

The Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, said both manufacturers had submitted aggressive proposals.

"However, neither the B777 nor the A340 provide an economical solution to our desire to have some of our services overfly mid-point hubs," he said.

"As well, our commercial people did not feel the savings in elapsed time between the non-stop and one-stop journey was great enough to appeal to a wide enough passenger base," he said.

"We will continue to talk to Airbus and Boeing on further developing the options for longer-range aircraft."

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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2006, 06:58:09 AM »
Source, finnair homepage.

FINNAIR ORDERS 12 NEW LONG-HAUL AIRCRAFT


Finnair is to acquire 12 new Airbus wide-bodied aircraft, as it modernises its long-haul fleet. Of the aircraft, nine are A350s and three are A340s. Owing to strong growth in Asian traffic, the A340 aircraft will be acquired earlier, in 2007–08.

The Airbus A350 is a new type of aircraft and the first of them will join the Finnair fleet in 2011.
"This is the biggest fleet modernisation in Finnair’s history. By 2009, our long-haul traffic fleet will consist of at least ten aircraft. The decision reflects our confidence and commitment to our Asian growth strategy. It will enable us to open new destinations as well as to increase flight frequencies to destinations where demand is greatest. In addition to China we are opening new routes to Japan and India," Finnair President and CEO Keijo Suila.

Next year the aim is to increase by one aircraft the present seven-strong Boeing MD-11 long-haul fleet, to satisfy increasing demand in Asian traffic. The MD-11 aircraft, however, will be withdrawn from the Finnair fleet by 2012.

The Airbus A350-900 is a new-generation wide-bodied long-haul traffic aircraft, the production of which will start in 2009. The choice of this aircraft type was influenced by the affordability of its capital and operating costs compared with the other options. Thanks to its new technology, the Airbus 350’s fuel consumption per passenger is one third lower than that of the current Boeing MD-11 aircraft.

The nine 314-seat aircraft ordered by Finnair will be delivered to the company in the years 2011–13. Finnair also has options for four additional aircraft.

The Airbus A340 aircraft is a widely used long-haul traffic aircraft all over the world. The A340-300E aircraft ordered by Finnair have the most modern cabin with 303 seats. Finnair also has the option of ordering additional aircraft.

Finnair has purposefully increased the number of its Asian flights since 1999 and now has more than 40 flights a week to Asian destinations. Most recently, at the beginning of September, Finnair opened a route to Guangzhou in China, to which it flies three times a week. Finnair flies twice a day to China and to Bangkok in Thailand and daily to Japan. Earlier this year, the company announced that next summer it will start flying to two new Asian destinations, Nagoya in Japan and Delhi in India.
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Re: Qantas Decides Against "Hub-Busters"
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2006, 09:12:09 AM »
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More news from Qantas. Ripsnort, how does this sit with the development of 777-200LR?

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As I said, its closer than you think. We're working on it. That's all I can say.

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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2006, 11:37:05 AM »
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As I said, its closer than you think. We're working on it. That's all I can say.
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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2006, 04:03:13 PM »
I really don't get the US vs Euro Boeing vs Airbus deal.

Both companies produce reliable, comfortable planes. If you're blindfolded, you can't tell the difference between riding in either of them.

Commercial airlines take you from point A to point B in as fast and safe a way possible. They're not racer cars put in place for the fun of it.

Any of the two will do the job. Your goal is probably not to ride either a Boeing or a an Airbus but rather to get to your destination.

As long as you get there safely and on time, why does who makes the plane matter?

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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2006, 07:26:37 PM »
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Nationalism at this level is as ridiculous as nationalism during soccer wolrd championships. I support the latter though  :D

as anyone here really care if its a Boing or Airbus, both fly/exist because
of free-market economy. But it looks like some here can't handle this *g*
And yeah i will support Germany during the "Fussball Weltmeisterschaft 2006"! :D
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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2006, 04:39:00 AM »
Looks like another close battle between Airbus and Boeing in 2005; Airbus claim to have edged it.

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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2006, 08:53:18 AM »
Interesting article, Nexx.

I've just booked a trip to Tenerife for a week starting next Tuesday. I had a choice of airlines, but I chose Monarch because a) I've flown with them before, and b) The flight times are convenient (didn't want an easyJet style 6:10am departure flight, or to have to face the M25 at 5:30pm when I get back).  As to what aircraft they fly, that was not even a consideration. Turns out they fly four different Airbus variants and one B757 variant. No idea which one I'll get.

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« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2006, 10:04:37 AM »
It doesn't really bother me which plane I fly in.  When I flew back to the UK at Xmas it was in an Avro AR8 (BAe146) and the return flight to Germany was a Canadair CRJ700.  That's because I flew to Birmingham instead.  If I fly via Heathrow it's usually an Airbus A319/A320 if with Lufthansa or the same plus a B737 with BA.

I'm avoiding using Easy Jet but apart from that I just go for the cheapest scheduled flights and whatever plane it'll be in.  Usually it's BA or most likely Lufthansa.  What are Monarch like then?
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