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Offline SkevJ

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What is a Spit XVI's weakness
« on: January 09, 2006, 05:34:12 AM »
The last time I flew in the MA was right before they introduced the P47N's. Sure there were a lot of LA-7's around but it had a weakness. High altitude. The popular spits although they were great they had sort of a weak dive and top speed was sort of low. Now I cant outdive the friggin spit, I cant outturn it, I cant outrun it, I cant even manuever it. I've first encountered this when I was doing a BNZ with a P47N. I saw a spit on my tail during a dive and I was like no problem I'll just outclimb it. What do you know that guy was still on my tail nose up in the air not only keeping up with me but gaining up on me as well. I'm like WTF.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2006, 06:20:39 AM »
Their weakness is other Spits notably the Mk VIII, or just another XVI :D
I tried a 109F against one the other day and got him BTW.
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Re: What is a Spit XVI's weakness
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2006, 06:51:52 AM »
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The last time I flew in the MA was right before they introduced the P47N's. Sure there were a lot of LA-7's around but it had a weakness. High altitude. The popular spits although they were great they had sort of a weak dive and top speed was sort of low. Now I cant outdive the friggin spit, I cant outturn it, I cant outrun it, I cant even manuever it. I've first encountered this when I was doing a BNZ with a P47N. I saw a spit on my tail during a dive and I was like no problem I'll just outclimb it. What do you know that guy was still on my tail nose up in the air not only keeping up with me but gaining up on me as well. I'm like WTF.




Hey hit the brakes and they'll fly right by:aok

Really though, the best way to get a spit is to BnZ with a P38. Rope em to death. Trust me ive out turned many spit16s in my good old 38(when the spit is at low speeds)and they are not hard to shoot down. However if they are on your six then try to dodge the bullets and hope to god he runs outta cannons. If that dont work then ur screwed.
In short run like hell when they get on your six.:aok

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What is a Spit XVI's weakness
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2006, 07:45:20 AM »
Thats the problem spit 16 doesn't have any real shortcomings or problems.

Spit 16 will actually climb with some of the 109's.
If it has any alt advantage it will chase down la's & yaks.

A seafire or V will outturn a 16, but not by a lot.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2006, 08:04:53 AM »
No weakness in that plane. Only the better pilot can beat the spit.


I declare Spit XVI fighter of the year. :aok


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What is a Spit XVI's weakness
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2006, 08:09:58 AM »
There's one weakness...It can't catch the 262 :D

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2006, 08:42:17 AM »
It's speed.
Without some alt so it can dive, its not even in the top 10-15 fastest planes on the deck.
Keep your speed you'll not have a prob with XVI's. (unless he's diving).
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2006, 09:51:58 AM »
Wow, what a great weakness, sorry.
Fights are in alt of 500-15000 at normal in MA because of that d*** cloud
line at 15000k. I don't know whats that for. Only to keep the game in a
"restricted" altitude.

For those who want to rip me in the air now :D
I like the Spit XVI too, because my wings don't rip at high speed turns as
in Spit IX do and no perks needed to fly a late war one vs those Lala7, Doras
and so on. K4s no problem, they don't really climb away ( the strength of the
109s ). :t
« Last Edit: January 09, 2006, 10:05:47 AM by Loddar »

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2006, 10:00:45 AM »
with a bit of alt you could have tried a zero G dive.

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2006, 10:40:51 AM »
Ki-84s will destroy them in a dogfight as well.  Just don't get it too fast.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2006, 11:03:21 AM »
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Ki-84s will destroy them in a dogfight as well.  Just don't get it too fast.


Actually, in my experience that isn't true.  The Ki-84 could dominate an old Spit 9 in an extended dogfight by virtue of its superior slow speed handling, and prop hanging ability.  The old Spit 5 could keep up with it, given equal pilots.  

The Spit 16 can keep up with it, in my experience.  

So, at the best, given a better pilot the Ki-84 will be able to take a Spit 16 in a slow knife fight (just make sure the fight keeps going uphill, you need your flaps)... if the Spit 16 pilot is as good or better I'd give the edge to the Spit 16 pilot.

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Re: What is a Spit XVI's weakness
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2006, 11:16:23 AM »
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What is a Spit XVI's weakness


It's pilot.

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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2006, 02:42:16 PM »
I'm more of a Ki-84 pilot myself, mostly because I like a little balance in the game, KI has the performance I like with a weakness people can try and take advantage of but I normaly won't let them, anywho, with a Ki I feel it'll outfly the 16 but only in either the vertical or VERY low speed with flaps as said above... The thing is, the spit 16 takes less to keep it turning, it doesn't need it's flaps like the Ki so you don't have to move about as much to keep flyin, but the spit doesn't have nice 1 cool to 3 runnning WEP the Ki has, very huge advantage!

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2006, 04:11:50 PM »
Sunday morning I am capping (vulching) a base in a spit 16 so we can capture it.  A 109k ups and to my surprise no one dives on it.  I come zipping down and pull back on the throttle to prevent the overshoot.  I get to 400 and squeeze the cannons.  A couple of puffs and the 109 is still flying but now that its warned it starts evasives.  Scissors, yo-yo's, barrell rolls, what ever.  

I close to within 200 and miss.  I start skidding to avoid getting out in front again and after I get lined up I am now 600 out.   Using mg's only I get a couple of more hits and the 109 goes evasive again.  I lose sight in the canopy frame and when I get on its 6 again I squeeze off some more rounds.  All misses.  

I run out of ammo and dis-engage, the 109 is climbing for alt and going back to the base.

What is a spit 16's weakness?  Me.

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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2006, 05:37:01 PM »
Aim for the wings as they are very weak.

Short burst from a 38 (yes i know many will argue thats because the 38 guns are concentrated) and the wings of a spit 16 rip right off.  Thats what ive found so thats where I usually aim.
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