Author Topic: ENY...What do you do? (Read 1147 times)

cav58d · « **on:** January 17, 2006, 01:15:38 AM »

You are flying at 10k in your favorite ride...5k below you spot a high eny plane (Hurrimk1/spit1/c202/109E) and a lower eny plane(anything from LA7 to a p-38J)...They are both same altitude, same heading, same speed and same E...Which airplane do you attack and why? Do you go for what you may think of as an easy kill and attack the hurrimk 1? or do you go after what you think "may" be more of a challenge and go for the LA7? Why is it that you choose the higher or lower eny airplane to attack? Is it because of possible perks? Because you think that the high eny kill may be an easier kill opposed to the low eny? Do you ever follow patterns when in this situation? or is it simply case by case, and you choose the airplane you can exploit with the advantages of the bird your in???

-Cav

RTSigma · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2006, 01:19:14 AM »

Threat assessment:

Which one presents a danger to myself and my plane?

Can I perform and can my plane perform reliably and admirably to be double teamed?

Which one would most likely be piloted by a great pilot and which one is just bored?

SFCHONDO · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2006, 01:30:49 AM »

I don't even think about ENY value when engaging a plane. I would take out the greatest threat 1st. Then proceed to the next trgt. Can't really give a senerio because there are to many factors, what are the planes I am fighting and what plane I'm in at the time makes a huge differance in what i will do. So bottom line is i could care less about killing a plane that will yeild me more perks. Playing this game for perk points or rank doesn't interest me. I play just to have fun.

Saxman · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2006, 02:00:53 AM »

In an ideal situation this is what I'd consider:

1) Positioning. What's their heading and angle of attack in relation to ME? Are they just cruising, or are they entering a fight? Are they flying abreast or is one trailing behind the other? Level flight? Climbing? Diving? Turning? Where is MY position? Behind them? To their left or right? Ahead of them?

2) Situational Awareness. Have they given any indication they've seen me? HAVE they seen me? Is it JUST these two bandits or are there others nearby? Friendlies?

3) Which of the two provides a cleaner and more sure shot? If I make a move against one, will his buddy be able to swing in on me?

4) What ARE the bandits? As I usually fly the Corsair, I want to be sure to eliminate whichever target would make the hardest kill if it came down to a close-quarters fight (Spitfires, Zekes, etc) on the first pass. So if the high ENY is a Spitfire, and the low ENY is an ElGay I'd want to nail the Spit first and take him out of the fight, as I'm more confident of being able to deal with the LA7 in an extended fight (that, and I REALLY don't want to deal with yet ANOTHER friggen' Spit HO dweeb

).

5) What's the terrain like? Any cover I can use on approach? They're at 5000ft, but what's ground level? 100ft? 4999ft?

Cooley · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2006, 02:10:54 AM »

I'd say kill whatever the good turner is first,,,cause u can usually avoid
a few B&Z passes,,,kill the turner asap, then deal with the fast plane

Schatzi · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2006, 03:49:11 AM »

Well, if i had enough speed/alt and was sure i could keep both while taking care of the LA i would go for the LA first, simply because the Hurri1 isnt much of a thret as long as im fast and keep an eye on him.

If i was slower in a turner, then i probably would try to get the Hurri first, since hes becoming a threat fast and one can usually assume that its one of the better pilots in it. I guess in that scenario, i either kill the Hurri fast and have a 1 on 1 with the LA or i end up in a 2 on 1, where i dont really have a *choice* on whom to kill first.... whoever i manage to get a shot off at first.

But then maybe.... i think id run like the bat from hell..... im SCAAARED of dem Hurri1s!!!

JTs · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2006, 04:28:17 AM »

kill the hurri first its probably schatzi and if she will kill you very fast.

zorstorer · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2006, 06:26:06 AM »

We need to get a Hurri Mk1 cult started

I would lay money down that 5-7 people on here get 75-85% of all kills in the Mk1

bozon · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2006, 06:29:28 AM »

HO the one with the weaker guns.

Pooface · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2006, 06:36:52 AM »

i try to remove the biggest threat first. if one was an la, and one was hurri 1, i'd get the la because he can run away, then get hurri. if it was the other way round, and i went for the hurri, i'd most likely have to start to engage him, losing e, which means i find it harder to get the cherry picking lala later.

changes in different situations though

Schatzi · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2006, 06:42:52 AM »

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Originally posted by bozon
HO the one with the weaker guns.

Thats probably what the C-Hog thought when he HOed my Hurri. Well, he was smoking fuel afterwards and i got away unscathed - theres much to be said about good maneuverability

. And bigger isnt always better.

syncrII · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:03:35 AM »

Moin

first i go for the dangerest enemy. than folows the rest.
because you can handel the low eny enemy esear than the high eny enemy thats why he must go first.

cu chris3

SlapShot · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:32:11 AM »

I kill, in order, if I can, the one that would poses the most threat.

Kurt · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2006, 08:36:41 AM »

I don't consider it from an ENY value. I'm going to look down there and decide which one of those guys is my biggest problem. More often than not the Low eny plane would be the problem.

I'm going to want to ice that guy while I've got the advantage. The weaker threat can be dealt with in a lower energy state and therefore if I lose anything in the attack on the better plane I should still be ok.

However, any time I see a VERY weak aircraft I expect it to be one of the best pilots. For instance I have learned that P40's are almost exclusively piloted by very dangerous pilots who will do well in ANY ride. I never assume that the weak plane is going to be an easy kill. Fact is that weaker pilots typically fly the strongest planes in an effort to balance themselves.

Pooface · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2006, 08:46:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Kurt
I don't consider it from an ENY value. I'm going to look down there and decide which one of those guys is my biggest problem. More often than not the Low eny plane would be the problem.

I'm going to want to ice that guy while I've got the advantage. The weaker threat can be dealt with in a lower energy state and therefore if I lose anything in the attack on the better plane I should still be ok.

However, any time I see a VERY weak aircraft I expect it to be one of the best pilots. For instance I have learned that P40's are almost exclusively piloted by very dangerous pilots who will do well in ANY ride. I never assume that the weak plane is going to be an easy kill. Fact is that weaker pilots typically fly the strongest planes in an effort to balance themselves.

yeah, i find im quite careful around p40b's and the like

ps, funny sig