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Offline Roscoroo

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« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2006, 07:43:45 PM »
Keep your fingers outta my soup ... Its my Fly and I'm gonna eat it !


My feelings about all this in a nutshell.
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« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2006, 07:56:00 PM »
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LOL Can you prove you "wouldnt" do something?


By George..I think he's got it!!!!

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« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2006, 07:59:55 PM »
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By George..I think he's got it!!!!

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I dont have to prove it though. thats the point.

Its called "innocent until proven guilty" not the other way around.
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« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2006, 08:05:04 PM »
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I dont have to prove it though. thats the point.

Its called "innocent until proven guilty" not the other way around.


Well that sounds nice, ever been through a tax audit?

Innocent until proven guilty is the way it should be, however we are getting further and further from that...thats my point.

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« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2006, 12:40:10 AM »
If you aren't doing anything illegal then what is everyone worried about? Do you really think the government gives two chits as to what you may be looking up if it's legal? If your constantly looking into things that are blatantly illegal or extremely suspicious then you deserve it. If it's harmless curiousity then who really cares.

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« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2006, 12:43:34 AM »
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If you aren't doing anything illegal then what is everyone worried about? Do you really think the government gives two chits as to what you may be looking up if it's legal? If your constantly looking into things that are blatantly illegal or extremely suspicious then you deserve it. If it's harmless curiousity then who really cares.

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I'm pretty sure they aren't going to raise the prices of your tin foil hats either. Worse case scenario just use a pot or pan.


Thats not the point. I care because what I do albeit legal isnt anyones buisness.

Its called privacy

Taking a crap is legal too but I dont want anyone watching how I wipe my butt.
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« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2006, 12:51:44 AM »
Your on a computer connected to the internet and you want and expect privacy? Well you've come to the wrong place.  Do you have a totally encrypted pc?

You may want to go to your local library and start looking up your interests there. Even that doesn't mean your interests aren't being watched by someone.

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« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2006, 01:33:49 AM »
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Your on a computer connected to the internet and you want and expect privacy? Well you've come to the wrong place.  Do you have a totally encrypted pc?

You may want to go to your local library and start looking up your interests there. Even that doesn't mean your interests aren't being watched by someone.


You want the feds or the state or the security service they contract to watch your every move and record arecord of those doings, you go ahead and sign a release and invite 'em to eyeball you to their hearts content.

I on the other hand regard intrusions of any type on my person, house, papers, and effects to be an insult and affront; the government has no reason to distrust it's citizens unless it is itself involved in illegal doings.

mayhaps we need to look at this from a different perspective. Government is in service to us, the citizens. It is OUR instrument, answerable to US, it's creators. And I refuse to accept that the government, which we; the people created has any legal authority to in effect become my keeper. It is the other way around.. and they need to be brought to account in this regard, as it and it's executive have obviously violated the laws that were written to control it.

edit: I would like the citizens of this nation to demand however that all public officals at all levels be subjected to the kind of scutinity that they demand for us. We the People, have the right to know without doubt that our public officals are honest. By accepting a public office, every financial tansaction, every fact of their lives, public and private should be available 24/7 via webcam to every single one of their constitutents.

There would be no need for such scutinity of private citizens.
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« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2006, 10:53:46 AM »
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freedom means what exactly? freedom to break the law in private?

In other words I can break whatever law I want and as long as no one else knows about my illegal behavior I am protected by privacy?


It's another balance in power... comeing from a society that had such travesties of justice such as witch burnings.

If it's a 'crime' that harms noone, heance noone knows about it, is it really a 'crime'? or just aginst the law?.....  

I'll bet 70% of the people on this board have broken a law already today.... I went a bit over the speed limit a few minutes ago ... oops hill.... is there a 'jay-walking' ordenace in your city? did you cross the street today at the corner?

The law isn't to be enforced at any cost ... I consider this a check aginst undue burdens of law..... if it's so small noone noticed... is it a crime?.... lots of things are agisnt the law, and commonly broken.... but i don't really consider it a crime or immoral... its just silly laws like 'jay-walking'

So privacy is a needed check to the govements power-and your right.

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« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2006, 12:34:14 PM »
Yup.

Damn right.. I understand the governments need to monitor foriegn national caller/called strings.. however there is in place a system where they can do so legally with a 'secret warrant' issued by a 'secret court'.  The President simply ignored the 'check' and would never have completed any of the disclosure to the secret FISA court at all if the press hadn't nailed him for it.

That's gotta be stopped. They need intel, kewl. Follow the law. He's not above it, our government can NEVER be allowed hold itself to be above the law, EVER.

The war on terror is a 'forever war'.. it'll never be finished. I'm absolutely NOT willing to see citizens rights usurped via the nebulous 'war powers act' to prosecute it; for doing so would necessarily mean our rights are subordinate to the presidents will FOREVER.
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« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2006, 01:27:05 PM »
Privacy?

My understanding is that the toilets in prison are out in the great wide open.  Just imagine,everyone within view will know your wiping technique.

Hang, why do you suppose the admin has passed over the warrent process?  What benifit is there to bypassing a judicial nod and a wink?
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« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2006, 01:49:34 PM »
Precedent.
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« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2006, 04:30:53 PM »
lol you guys are so paranoid it's not even funny.

We'll just have to see who are the folks that piss and moan if another Twin Towers attack occurs. It's rather amazing how many folks whine and complain about our government not doing enough to protect us (911 for example). Yet in the same breath they are same ones who will bind the hands of our first line of defense folks because they are selfish. They don't want the government to know just what style of panties they are wearing whenever the coast is clear. It's good on ya to choose which has more priority, your shopping list or your fellow countrymen/women and the nations security overall. Way to be a true player.


As they say here at my base, "In god we trust . All others we monitor".

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« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2006, 05:56:38 PM »
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glad I search for my porn on ask Jeeves :)



LOL read through that line too fast, thought you said you look for porn by asking Jesus :O

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« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2006, 06:33:24 PM »
Cobra412 glad you have the esprit that you seem to have.

Keep in mind that you have given up many of your rights as you are covered under the military code of justice while you are attached.

I dare say that most of us out here that dont like the government taking care of every little adverse possibility are not going to be the ones whining if another bomb goes off.

Its gonna be all these so called tough folk who want to secure everything that are going to go nuts.

A bunch of CHCIKEN LITTLES we have running things now..OH please I cant take any risk..protect me government from all risk.

At the same time they send you guys out to do thier bidding while they puff up.


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