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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2006, 09:08:56 PM »
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You don't even play this game any more,so why you tryin too get in where you don't fit in?

Not online I don't very often, but I still pay my fee and keep my account open.  My last flight online was earlier this month in the AvA.  I bagged a Yak-9T, Hurri IIc and La-5FN while flying the Bf109G-2.  I doubt I climbed above 5,000ft though, so I obviously lack your skill.

You don't fight much because it is hard to find people who will stay above your hard deck.  Heck, it is hard to find people above it at all sometimes.
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2006, 09:12:58 PM »
He's just trying to start a fight with the BKs to destract everybody from his timid flying. Carry on Auto, proclaim your greatness and how you PWN everyone screaming in at 50K;)

BTW did you use to go by tedstrkr or 1hunglo? You sure remind me of them.
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2006, 10:04:02 PM »
if you want to see how good the 109 can be, go to the Allied vs Axis arena this week

it is BOB right now with a rolling planeset

you can't appreciate the 109, nor most other planes in the choas called the MA
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2006, 10:06:07 PM »
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Lol.

move 1 : find a plane fighting multiple friendlies
move 2 : cherrypick said plane
move 3 : gloat about you 1337 sk1llz on the BBS.


That's about the size of it today.
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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2006, 10:19:52 PM »
Learn to shoot 30mm's and some ACM. Problem solved. The plane sucks, but it can be fought in.
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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2006, 10:22:45 PM »
I am curious to see what the flaps will do when Hitech releases the next update with the 109 flaps deploying at the proper speeds. I do not think they are going to be super flaps like the 51 has but they will make some difference.
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2006, 10:29:25 PM »
morpheus, REALLY on the next update 109 will be allowed faster deploying flaps?
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2006, 10:32:29 PM »
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maybe you could post a film so that we all might learn.


I have no way of posting them or else i would.

Yes i do fly above 10-K too 15-K there is so much more room too manuver up there,and that's one of the strong points of the 190.

The comment about the BK's was just to get there pretty pink panties in a bunch,and just cuz i can.

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« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2006, 10:33:58 PM »
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morpheus, REALLY on the next update 109 will be allowed faster deploying flaps?


Thats what Pyro said in the big thread on LW that NathBDP started. I am curious to see if they stick to the LW charts or not...
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« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2006, 10:38:47 PM »
well, very good news, glad to read it. ty
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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2006, 10:40:52 PM »
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The comment about the BK's was just to get there pretty pink panties in a bunch,and just cuz i can.


I don't think it worked bud, but thanks for playing. Oh, and we wear blue panties, hence the name.

So which one are you, 1hunglo or tedstrkr?
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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2006, 10:44:12 PM »
I dont even regard AutoMouth as even a half good stick, so if he wants to call me a cherry picker more power to him. :aok
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2006, 10:45:59 PM »
I must say, the 109 does seem to have alot of problems. The G14 does have mainly top speed problems... I myself love to BnZ, thats my favorite style by far, the old 109s were great BnZing machines, but the new ones are junk. I've pretty much always flew anything that loops well, the 109s, Spit14, Ki-84(My favorite), the P-38 ect, but the 109s now have such turning problems that there almost impossable to aim even in the vertical. They have great climb and zoom climb, but that lack of turn rate really hurts.
It is said that the 109 had some turning problems in the later models do to the lack of wing area, with an increase of almost 2,000 pounds and no increase of wing area will destroy your turn rate, easly! Though the huge increase in engine power helped, it didn't seem to help enough.
As said above, I've also read that the Germans main problem was the Allies numbers, and in the end thats how they were destoyed, a country the size of Texas can't take on two of the largest countries in the world for very long (Russia and US). The US started detaching the bomber escorts from the bombers, when the German intercepters would up from there bases the escorts would often leave the bombers and attack the fighter, even after the Germans would halt there attack. They were in the end almost purly hunted down till there was almost nothing let.
What gets me is there was actully still enough aircraft to defend Germany, they were actully running more out of people then anything else.
So basicly, I'd have to say the 109's and 190s really are having trouble keeping up, this isn't anything new, lots of people have talked about this and HTC has even said they'ed fix some of it like the G14's top speed. But your best bet for now is either switch to another ride, wait for the new patch and hope, or go to a different game like Target Ware ! There modeling and engine control is very realistic, take off is a little touchy but it's still a beta.

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« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2006, 11:04:11 PM »
"if I asked Eric Hartmann he would tell me that the 109G6 is probably the best because I believe thats what he mostly flew"


ill cry one for the allies..if hartmann and company had spits in the beginning of the war with their skill and tactics i doubt the brits would have lasted very long..JMO..spits are labeled easy mode for a reason, they are exceptional aircraft. imagine hartmann and his wingman being able to engage low cons without fear of being outurned? the 109 and 190 were designed to engage with alt and speed and and wingman tactics.. something the brits had none of  early war...i know im mixing AH with reality but I think alot of this debate in AH stems from vets flying axis planes and still being at a disadvantage even with the skill set they possess. trust me if the top ftr squads all upped in spit 16's. lalas. etc. all the time the dessimation would  launch a million threads on bbs..the skill set of AH pilots is a huge gap unfortunately. I think Hitech does a fair job of controlling this through plane models and perks, thus the nonperked la7 and spit 16..u perk either one and i think alot of newbs would be severely frustrated and cancel their account.  Just ranting here..flame away.

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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2006, 03:13:52 AM »
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I am curious to see what the flaps will do when Hitech releases the next update with the 109 flaps deploying at the proper speeds. I do not think they are going to be super flaps like the 51 has but they will make some difference.

My crystal ball forsee a crying fest when flaps do not turn the 109 into the uber plane some expect it to be.

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