ENY should kick in sooner so motivation is there to balance sides

[flyzilla]

Originally posted by richard_rd
I just mentioned my rank so you would know i was not a newbie complaiining.  If i cared about rank i would not up from my enemy capped base only to get voulched on the runway 10 times in a row trying to save the base.

  Thats just STUPID !  Only noobs up ten times from capped fields.....

[Pooface]

this discussion is pretty lame lol. but, rich has a point that the numbers are very unfair most of the time. perhaps a few, cooperative squad could switch sides??


maybe a bishop and a rook squad, with decent numbers switch to knights, maybe it would be a little more even, just a thought

[AutoPilot]

It just happens richard deal with it.

I remember when everybody and thier brother was a knight and none of them would switch.It seems every country takes thier turn in the (lower numbers get jumped role).Just think of it as more targets for your La-7.

[SFCHONDO]

ENY hasn't changed a thing towards balancing sides and it NEVER will. Every country has times when it has mass numbers. Usually Sunday nite for about 3 hours Rooks has a ton of players on. Then on Mondays Bish have their huge numbers for a few hours.

I would change sides at times to help out the weaker side, but usually about an hour or two later the sides seem to balance on there own or the country I moved to has the numbers. So if I switch I am stuck there for 12 hours or what ever the time is before being able to change.

I believe if the time to change countries was only a hour or so, more would do it. Bottom line though is that the ENY has done nothing to balance the sides. (IMO) It mostly just makes those on the underdog side log off earlier than they would probably want to. Just my opinion on this matter.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by richard_rd
Yes people who switch sides from the weaker numbered side just to keep their rank high are traders!!!    

People who switch from the sides with the stronger numbers to be able to pilot the better planes are just smart!!!! If you take the game as a serious Team game and have loalty I would not expect you to switch sides.  But there are at least 20% on each side that don't care about Team Tatics, these are the guys that just want to furball and not capture bases.  It is those players that would balance the sides out!!!!

I would love to know where you are getting these numbers to base your percentages on ... beside out of your arse.

So you want the furballers to switch sides ... and do what ?

They don't participate in the "land grab" so what benefit would they play.

If I was a rook fuballing between a knight base, and I switch to knights and now furball between the rook base that I was just at ... what did that accomplish ? ... ummmm .... nothing.

You don't care about rank ? ... yet you struggle to stay in the top %10-15 ... sure ... I believe ya don't care about rank ...

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Toad
The idea being that with perfectly balanced sides the "war" would "stalemate" and no one would "win the war"?

That is TOO funny, considering all the emphasis on "winning the war".

Toad: there is a vast difference between balanced teams and balanced numbers.


You can try to use the ENY kick in sooner method all you want. The "Side Balancing" Via the ENY sanction hasn’t worked...nor will it ever work. It’s just not in the nature of most players to switch to the losing side. Cept for the few that switch to get cheaper perk rides for the fun of it, the "Side Balancing" eny thingy has panned out to be worthless as far as balancing sides.. We still have nights when one country outnumbers the others by 20 to even 40 players sometimes.
edit:...lol..i must have been replying the same time as HT.
HT...i fully understand what you are saying. I think it means a little more to those that are out there in the trenches than it does to an admin. But i agree it has helped some. But those 2 or 4 hours when one country outnumbers the other 2 by 30 to 40 even 50 players when the reset hoard is on the roll...It feels like its not working.

[hitech]

SFCHONDO: I strongly disagree. The ENY has had a drastic impact on side balance. Before the ENY we could have periods of more than 3 months when one side could have 1/2 the number of each ot the other 2 countries.

I havn't seen a large imbalance for longer than a week or 2 since the ENY was implemented.

You can even look at this current post 60 60 40, is not a huge imbalance as compared to life pre ENY.

So if you ask the question does ENY perfectly balance the arena, the answere is no, (because it wasn't ment to be a perfect balance). But it has drasticly limited the peeks and valies as it was designed to do so.

HiTech

[dedalos]

Bad News

Non of the traders I talk to knows anything about AH.  Will be checking other exchanges shortly.

[wetrat]

Originally posted by richard_rd
I just mentioned my rank so you would know i was not a newbie complaiining.  If i cared about rank i would not up from my enemy capped base only to get voulched on the runway 10 times in a row trying to save the base.

9/10 of the rank weenies are newbies. The fact that you don't know this solidifies your position as a newbie.


P.S. WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by hitech
SFCHONDO: I strongly disagree. The ENY has had a drastic impact on side balance. Before the ENY we could have periods of more than 3 months when one side could have 1/2 the number of each ot the other 2 countries.

I havn't seen a large imbalance for longer than a week or 2 since the ENY was implemented.

You can even look at this current post 60 60 40, is not a huge imbalance as compared to life pre ENY.

So if you ask the question does ENY perfectly balance the arena, the answere is no, (because it wasn't ment to be a perfect balance). But it has drasticly limited the peeks and valies as it was designed to do so.

HiTech

Well seeing as those with the low ENY value get a choice of more planes than those who have a high ENY how bout those with the high ENY pay less per month ? kinda a prorate plan seeing as we are paying the same amount for fewer planes.

LOL I know this sounds silly but so is ENY just one mans opnion.

[AutoPilot]

Well seeing as those with the low ENY value get a choice of more planes than those who have a high ENY

Ok so your outnumbered cuz no one will switch teams (cuz of loyalty over a make believe country),now would you rather have nothing but 190-D's 109-K's and La-7's and Hurricane MkII-C's or would you rather have them coming at you in planes that are normally hard for most too fly and because of weak guns are way harder to down a plane?

Anyone who disagree's with the ENY has to be a newbie IMHO.

[Blammo]

First, the best part of this thread was:

I which a wild bore with rabies tracks you down and eats your heart out you scumb bag traders!!!!

Sometimes, I which a wild bore with rabies would eat the heart of scum bag traders too!  Although, I don't really know any scum bag traders...but if I did, I am sure I would which a wild bore with rabies would eat their heart out!

But, more specifically to your request:

NO

[traps]

Blammo you are wrong!


 the best part of this thread is dedalos, he is freekin' killing me


 still waiting for the report from the exchange

[dedalos]

Originally posted by AutoPilot
Ok so your outnumbered cuz no one will switch teams (cuz of loyalty over a make believe country),now would you rather have nothing but 190-D's 109-K's and La-7's and Hurricane MkII-C's or would you rather have them coming at you in planes that are normally hard for most too fly and because of weak guns are way harder to down a plane?

Anyone who disagree's with the ENY has to be a newbie IMHO.

 Out of all these planes you mentioned, the only one to worry about is the Hurr II-C and the ENY does not effect it very often.

Unless you are a newbie

[richard_rd]

HT,

I strongly disagree, if you have a way to do hourly snapshots of the team strengths i would like you to post the numbers for the past 4 months.  Currently it is:

Bish 96 players
Knights 70 players
Rooks 110 Players

I play almost every day or every other day for 2-6 hours at a time at all differant times, and the above numbers are usually how the knights are out numbered, and alot of times it is much worse.  I can only remember a handful of times in the past 4 months that Knights have had the numbers advantage, i am lucky if 1 out of 10 times when i log in if  the numbers ratios are not like above or worse for the Knights!!!