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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2006, 04:34:16 PM »
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.  If someone is trying to harm you or a loved one "for no good reason", kill them.  If they have a good reason then you deserve what you get.  I guess......
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2006, 04:36:55 PM »
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
So Kennedy was a Communist? Would you, as an American, do something that would profit yourself but hurt your country?

Believe it or not, but America's way of life and communisum have this same comon goal as "My first duty is to my country", as "My first duty is to myself" would be Anarchy.


When J.F.K. said ask not what your country can do for you but etc...

I had a chill run up my spine!

The people that repsonded to WWII did so together MORE because of the preceived threat to their way of life.  Rather then for for their country.

"Men who deny individual rights cannot claim, defend or uphold any rights whatsoever. ... The liberals are guilty of the same contradiction, but in a different form. They advocate the sacrifice of all individual rights to unlimited majority rule - yet posture as defenders of the rights of minorities. But the smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." ~~ Ayn Rand

I think I need to add in the thought that there is IMHO nothing wrong with a little anarchy if we remember.............

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
Anglo-Irish playwright, critic

"The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do then in what we are free not to do."  Eric Hoffer
American philosopher.

"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live."  Oscar Wilde Anglo-
Irish author.

"I think that the sacredness of human life is a purely municipal ideal of no validity outside the jurisdiction. I believe that force, mitigated as far as may be by good manners, is the ultimate ratio, and between two groups of men
that want to make inconsistent kinds of world I see no remedy except force . . . It seems to me that every society rests on the death of men."
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes (1841-1935)
American jurist

"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am." ~~ Clarence Darrow (1857-1938)
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2006, 06:27:02 PM »
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This is probably a good thing Storch.  Those guys are already tough at street fighting and don't need Karate for that.  Any reputable dojo will weed out folks wanting to learn martial arts for antisocial purposes.  If anything, the serious students you describe are there to learn restraint and self discipline.

I have met Mr.Takashina (Shotokan) from your area near Miami.  He is chief instructor of the JKA  Atlantic Region and conducts training camps in Mobile once a year with T. Mikami.  Do you or have you trained Shotokan?




Les
I never did train in shotokan even though a long time friend is a shotokan practioner.  my body type is more suited to in close fighting and grappling.  there were some excellent shotokan practioners here and I'm trying to recall the name of an okinawan sensei that ran a large dojo at the YMCA in Hialeah but I don't recall his name right now.  I have practiced nisei/sansei goju ryu on and off since 1973
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2006, 07:56:12 PM »
Storch.  Master Chinen is a Goju-ryu master and I've met him before, at a tournament in New Orleans.  He's a really nice guy.

Gojo-ryu, get in a stance and become unmoveable.  Low solid stances that can't be moved.  Jion is a Goju kata at the 3 Dan level for Shotokan.  Goju is very strong Karate.

I have studied some Shotokan primarily, and some Tae Kwon Do variations mixed with very limited exposure to Kung Fu (Chinese kick boxing) but this was 30 years ago back in 76.  My body style is suited to Goju. I started because I wanted to be able to defend myself.  But after time it was the happiest I've ever been in my life.  I felt alive.  You and I probably started about the same tme.  Those were good days weren't they.





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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2006, 10:27:15 PM »
they were some good ol' days.  last saturday we had a seminar held at tiger and crane dojo with Honshi Joe Anon, Honshi Manny Saavedra, Honshi Herbie Thompson and a plethora of very talented 4 and 5 dan senseis.  I ran into a couple of guys from back in my highschool days and we got to reminiscing, the kids couldn't believe we practiced full contact without any protective gear!!!  some of the kids at the dojo where I work out are used to fighting me them in full gear me with just punches and kicks on mainly to not hurt them. they goaded us into an "old guy fight" between myself and my friend.  it sure was fun to fight someone I didn't have to chase around the tatami.  my kid placed 3rd in forms and kumite with NASKA in 2004.  he was out 2005 with injuries but we are working on his good ol'days right now.  when I'm doing "Coffin Kata" he'll have nice things to remember.
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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2006, 01:05:14 AM »
If a person enters your home with criminal intent to harm, I believe it to be completely within your rights to end that person's life and to do so with extreme prejudice. In short, empty the magazine.
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2006, 01:13:54 AM »
One for all, all for one; yeah, first duty is to oneself, and that mutual agreement amongst people to withhold the country's principles isn't some blind allegiance to governmental authority or anything else, but to the preservation of being able to think and act for oneself, freely.

And I wonder how many countries this is true for.
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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2006, 01:21:36 AM »
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If a person enters your home with criminal intent to harm, I believe it to be completely within your rights to end that person's life and to do so with extreme prejudice. In short, empty the magazine.


Then squeeze off one into your living room wall from your unregistered, untraceable throwdown, put it in the intruders hand, and then call the cops.
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2006, 01:37:19 AM »
Dance around the dead guy & laugh at him is OK too.
Posting photos of "ice hot stuntaz" with his/her decapitated head photoshoped in OK also
also photoshoping him/her/them/it into that picture of that army chick pointing is cool
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2006, 01:59:01 AM »
Not so many weeks ago a man here had all charges dropped against him after he killed a guy who broke in. It was daytime, and a fella walked in the front door of his house and behaved in a threatening manner. Fearing for his daughters and his own life the homeowner grabbed a knife and stabbed him in the gut and killed the intruder.

Charges were dropped.

As it should be.
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