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Offline Sandman

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« on: February 09, 2006, 10:39:05 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20060209/ts_nm/bush_plot_dc_2


Does anyone here think it's still possible to hijack a plane in this country?
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2006, 10:41:45 AM »
I seriously doubt anyone could hijack a plane in the US anymore. :)

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2006, 10:43:42 AM »
United 911 heavy, freecall 121.5, squawk 7500, have a nice day! :cool:

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2006, 10:57:04 AM »
If they used women hi-jackers beatle could play a roll in putting the smack down on them.

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2006, 11:00:55 AM »
Dunno.  Good question.  Sure hope not.  I'm glad those guys in the article were found out and stopped.









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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2006, 11:03:29 AM »
They know were fools....  if they push to far they will fool with "Boom in the desert"

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2006, 11:04:15 AM »
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If they used women hi-jackers beatle could play a roll in putting the smack down on them.
Z I N G ! :rofl
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2006, 11:05:50 AM »
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Originally posted by Sandman
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20060209/ts_nm/bush_plot_dc_2


Does anyone here think it's still possible to hijack a plane in this country?
reading the story, it sounds like the flight was not going to originate in the US, along with the asian operatives, it sounds like a plane from China or something.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2006, 11:10:21 AM »
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If they used women hi-jackers beatle could play a roll in putting the smack down on them.


What a damn shame, can't even beat your old-lady anymore without people throwing it back in your face. What kind of country have we become?!

Ok, that was pretty damn funny.

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2006, 11:14:13 AM »
Someone call an ambulance and take this man to the burn ward!

:rofl

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2006, 11:20:48 AM »
The plot was apparently dreamt up by Khalid Sheik Mohammed in October 2001 and intended to follow on the successes of the earlier hijacking. As I recall, this was before it had become widely known that the flight 93 passengers had fought to take back the airplane after they realized the hijackers were planning to fly it into a building. At that time their scenarios still probably envisaged the passengers being a bunch of docile sheep who wouldn't fight to stop hijackers.

Interestingly enough, Richard Reid was successfull in "walking" a pair of bomb-laden shoes onto a AA flight in December of 2001, so both the use of non-Arab muslims and the getting the bombs on board part of the plan would have worked at the time. The problem, as Reid found, was that passengers are no longer inclined to allow you to set fuses coming out of your shoes alight.

Had Reid been quicker on the draw and seated next to a pair of sleeping geriatrics, things might have gone differently however.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2006, 12:00:10 PM »
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Someone call an ambulance and take this man to the burn ward!

:rofl


I question the use of the term "man" in this case here Texace. Seems inapropriate..........
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2006, 12:01:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Seagoon

Interestingly enough, Richard Reid was successfull in "walking" a pair of bomb-laden shoes onto a AA flight in December of 2001, so both the use of non-Arab muslims and the getting the bombs on board part of the plan would have worked at the time.  


So after this statement above, you admit that quote:

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Now since we are forbidden to act on what we know about the likely religious and ethnic profile of potential Islamic terrorists, we are forced to screen every passenger. Now because the same terrorists have attempted to use trucks, you get screened and checked instead of just the likely terrorists.


Wouldn't have worked in the case of Reid and the LA plot.  That profiling would not have stopped the attempt.  

My point is, if we profiled, we'd have been looking the wrong direction, we would have given ourselves a false sense of security, and we wouldn't have stopped the attempt because our adversery had already made the adjustment to his tactics.

El Al screens every passenger and has found and stopped bombing attempts because of this.  From people who had no idea they were being used to transport bombs onto planes (a young jewish women being used by her "boyfriend" to carry a bomb unwittingly onto a plane.  The bomb was hidden in a radio.)

We just have to decide if El Al's very lengthy process is worth the trouble.  Up till now, we have decided it is not.  And of course El Al's doesn't carry near the passenger load as our system does.

When I flew in and out of Sri Lanka, every passenger went through a very intense screening process as well.  While I felt apprehension of the why I had to go through this process, I felt safer because of the thoroughness of the process.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2006, 12:10:23 PM »
Does this mean we can now deny liberties cause we got us a thwart. Is a thwart equal to one right? What exactly is the proper 'thwart to rights' ratio anyway?

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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2006, 12:15:19 PM »
Oy Vey. :rolleyes: