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Offline Silat

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« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2006, 04:41:23 AM »
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I don't think that most of us here are trying to say that Cheney did nothing wrong.


I think we are trying to prevent a kneejerk reaction to the thought that cheney is evil.


Guess you dont remember Cheney attacking kerry for his hunting escapade?  Memories are short.. And he is evil......
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« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2006, 08:13:52 AM »
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I did some construction work at a pheasentry several years ago.  They werent raised in boxes.  Mabey you read they were raised in pens which could also be misleading if you dont envision a pen as a small building with a wire and netting yard 2 or 3 times the size of the building.

Many private clubs stock their land going into hunting season.  I dont know an exact timeline for it, but stocked pheasents do revert to wild behavior.  I know this because I used to hunt farms adjacent to hunting clubs because that was a good place to kick up pheasents :)

Yea, Cheney has went to a private club here in PA a couple times and killed alot of birds that were just released that morning.  I cant see that being all that fun or sporting, but I guess if you have the money to pay someone to guarantee you will find and kill something, what do I care?

There are varying degrees though.  There is stocking to make sure there are 'wild' game to hunt, and then there's dumping a bunch of confused animals out in the field for the days customers.


What Murdr said.

I've always been lucky in that I have access to lots of farmland and land where the ranchers will leave portions of milo fields uncut, things like that, so I've never had the want or need to go to a guided hunt.

From some people I've talked with, the guided hunts were not that good.  It was how Murdr described some of them.  They just dumped birds out there the day of the hunt.  You almost had to kick them up, they said.  

I guess it's all related to the quality of the hunt reserve, much like any other business.
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« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2006, 08:25:02 AM »
I think the reason for this is clear...if the economy was better off, it wouldnt be forcing lawyers to hunt for food.
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« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2006, 08:30:13 AM »
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Naw if they aint in the crosswalk you can legaly speed up and hit em and if they dont get out of the crosswalk before the light turns green for you, they are fair GAME  :rofl  , pun intended.

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Yeah I wouldn't really follow that advise. Anyone who has hunted knows YOU DO NOT SHOOT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHERE THE SHOT IS GOING!!!
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« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2006, 09:21:45 AM »
The REAL deal:

If I shot somebody 'by accident' while hunting without a game stamp I'd be jailed, charged and an appearance docket issued.

There would be no 'extenuating circumstances', no excuses, no ignorance of needing that stamp accepted by juge or jury.

If that was Al Gore that shot somebody while hunting illegaly while Klinton was in office; the same Brown Shirt Republicans that are giving Cheney a 'pass' upthread would be frothing at the mouth for Gores scalp.

When are the dum partisan turdbags on both sides gonna smarten up and force ALL public servants to play by the same rules we gotta play by? When the hell did accountability require a political party screen first?
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« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2006, 09:29:10 AM »
I don't care about what party someone is from.  If they are honest and genuine then they get my vote.  I have not been voting for many at all over the years.
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« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2006, 09:31:07 AM »
ROFL. It's a wonder Cheney didn't have another heart attack.

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« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2006, 09:37:09 AM »
It was chenny's fault.

I would love all politicians to play by the same rules the rest of us have to.

I live in an area surrounded by fields.   I have to damn near kick pheasant to get em out of the way they are so fat.   Shooting them here would be less challenge than on a private hunting ranch.

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« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2006, 11:18:08 AM »
Murdr, I do respect people who stalk deer.  That's a very difficult thing to do.
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« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2006, 02:02:40 PM »
God most of the media types act like this type of thing has never happened before, this type if incident happens every year, across the nation, as long as the human factor remains accidents will happen. when I was 16 I was on my annual jack rabbit safari in eastern oregon, I accidently found myself down range of some of my party members, we were shielded by a low ridge line, I still remember the whine of the 22 rounds over my head. I bore them no ill will we are still life long friends. bad things happen to good people no one is immune,
not even famous folks. Iam sure Dick feels horrible for hurting a good friend, but
to suggest something under handed is just media crap! I see split second actions affect folks for a lifetime, this is nothing new.:o
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« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2006, 02:56:03 PM »
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ROFL. It's a wonder Cheney didn't have another heart attack.



Well, apparently the guy he shot did:

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/bush_administration

Question to all the Cheney supporters:

What if the guy he shot dies?  I think it would be called manslaughter.
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« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2006, 03:00:34 PM »
No, it wouldn't.  It was an accident on everyone's part, not just his, not just the lawyer's.  It would be very unfortunate if it did happen.
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« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2006, 03:06:13 PM »
Negligent homicide then?
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« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2006, 03:10:07 PM »
No.  I know us repeating something 40 times is hard for you to understand, I'll try once more.


It was through no one's particular fault that the accident happened.  For it to be negligient homicide or manslaughter, the other guy would have had to be where he should have been while hunting.

But he wasn't.  He was way out of place and didn't tell anyone.  Very unfortunate that it happened, it was just a pure accident.
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« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2006, 03:18:05 PM »
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The REAL deal:
If I shot somebody 'by accident' while hunting without a game stamp I'd be jailed, charged and an appearance docket issued.

Dont think so.  The Upland Game Bird Stamp in Texas is new.  Because it is a new stamp, Texas provided a year of warning citations to anyone violating the new requirement to allow hunters time to be informed of it.
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