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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2006, 08:09:22 PM »
b*stards took one kid in back and made him watch a war movie with Patrick Swayse in it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2006, 08:12:34 PM »
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b*stards took one kid in back and made him watch a war movie with Patrick Swayse in it.


Canadian soldiers would have made them listen to Celine Dion

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2006, 08:15:07 PM »
Lesson here is dont bring rocks to a gun fight:O

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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2006, 08:18:13 PM »
I think busting a few heads at this point is called for, the Iraqi kids are constantly throwing rocks at soldiers, and doing with impunity.  Let them know that they risk a good ass-kicking and maybe that crap will stop.

How about a SAW loaded with rubber bullets?  That would get their attention.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2006, 09:32:49 PM »
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Canadian soldiers would have made them listen to Celine Dion


I would rather be beaten with a stick.

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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2006, 09:47:04 PM »
how did this tape just pop up?...it was made 2 years ago.
just what we need....Iran`s psycho president to the Irani youth: look what`s coming at u!That`s why we need the bomb.
The sadistic tone of that idiot making the video will get trough to even those that don`t speak english....
OTOH if someone throws rocks at me....I`d beat the crap outta him.

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2006, 09:59:16 PM »
solders should not be allowed to have cameras.

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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2006, 11:18:02 PM »
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I think busting a few heads at this point is called for, the Iraqi kids are constantly throwing rocks at soldiers, and doing with impunity.  Let them know that they risk a good ass-kicking and maybe that crap will stop.

How about a SAW loaded with rubber bullets?  That would get their attention.


Rubber bullets?
lead bullets work much better.

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2006, 03:45:29 AM »
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Out of 645 words of the article, only 10 words covered the kids throwing rocks at the soldiers.

176 words of the article describe in detail what the soldiers did.  

If the bias isn't clear enough for you, I'll lay out some specific examples.
You miss out the elephant in the room in your examination of bias. The article has precisely no words as to why the kids were throwing rocks at the soldiers, so we have no idea if their actions are justified or not, and whether they deserve to be dragged off, handcuffed and then beaten. What are they protesting? I don't know; do you?

The real media bias is that the West doesn't know and doesn't care what the Iraqis' side of the story is - the US & UK just care whether it makes the Brits look bad (although next to the crime of the invasion and occupation, this beating session is just a drop in the ocean). No one has even thought to ask why these unarmed kids are throwing stones at heavily armed soldiers. They have been dehumanised so effectively by Western propaganda, that no one even bats an eye: they are Iraqis, therefore they throw stones is the simplisitic bias.

And the success of Western propaganda is reflected in this thread - several have called for the murder of unarmed teenagers, for throwing stones. Others have praised the restraint of the UK troops in not killing them. No one has said that beating people when they're down on the ground and handcuffed is both unecessary and counterproductive (in that it breeds hatred and conflict - qv the LA riots). And no one has wondered why they were throwing stones: no one cares, and it's not mentioned.

Which is especially odd, given that the one remaining on-message excuse for the invasion that isn't demonstrably false is that the US & UK were so concerned about the Iraqis' welfare that they wanted to liberate them from an oppressive police state with beatings, torture and other uncivilised stuff, to try a taste of Western freedom and democracy(TM).
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2006, 03:51:19 AM »
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I just saw it.  The only thing that disturbed me about the whole thing was the guy speaking into the camera.  He was friggin wierd.  Probably needs mental help and should not be in the military.


It didnt bother you when the soldier kicked the guy that was on the ground... in his balls/tailbone area?

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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2006, 03:56:04 AM »
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Rubber bullets?
lead bullets work much better.


Lead can be overkill at times.

Rubber bullets may sound soft but they can still pack a hefty punch. They can easily injure, a hit to the head can kill. There were plenty of examples of serious injuries and even some deaths when they were used against rioters in Northern Ireland for example.

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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2006, 04:02:44 AM »
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It didnt bother you when the soldier kicked the guy that was on the ground... in his balls/tailbone area?

why, if I wanted to hurt a SOB for throwing a rock at me I would kick him there too.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2006, 04:04:37 AM »
Ok.. just wondering

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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2006, 04:05:33 AM »
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No one has even thought to ask why these unarmed  kids are throwing stones at heavily armed soldiers.
:rofl :rofl


oh and dead, they obviously were throwing rocks, because as poor mistreated minoritys being steamrolled by the Bush/Haliburton corporate juggernaut, they felt they had no other options and we should feel sorry for their plight


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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2006, 05:09:34 AM »
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And the success of Western propaganda is reflected in this thread - several have called for the murder of unarmed teenagers, for throwing stones. Others have praised the restraint of the UK troops in not killing them. No one has said that beating people when they're down on the ground and handcuffed is both unecessary and counterproductive (in that it breeds hatred and conflict - qv the LA riots). And no one has wondered why they were throwing stones: no one cares, and it's not mentioned.




After reading most of the posts in this threat, you really that suprised?  You should know by now that most in here can't wipe their arses until Fox News tells them it's OK to do so.
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