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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2006, 06:33:17 PM »
Yet another reason to get rid of that stinking, liberal, america hating, communist, liberal freakshow... The ACLU.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2006, 06:40:58 PM »
RPM: Elaborate please.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2006, 06:46:46 PM »
Oh, sorry. I forgot to use these [sarcasm] [/sarcasm]
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2006, 06:53:11 PM »
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The thread seems oddly quiet.  Touchy subject?



nah, just noone wants to admit to agreeing with you...

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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2006, 07:22:41 PM »
Not to bring up an obvious point, but the only thing camera's will tell you is "Hey, you've just been raped."

 Kind of like Intrusion Detection Systems on yr computers, only they are trying to market them as Intrusion Protection Systems.


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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2006, 08:45:45 PM »
in case the sweedish bikini team stops by for practice

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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2006, 10:52:50 PM »
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Not to bring up an obvious point, but the only thing camera's will tell you is "Hey, you've just been raped."

 Kind of like Intrusion Detection Systems on yr computers, only they are trying to market them as Intrusion Protection Systems.


Ummm nobody really sells IDS anymore, its all IDP - has been for the last couple of years. Get with the times ;)

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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2006, 11:02:54 PM »
The true reason they want to install cameras follows

They have surpassed the belief of the boogeyman and monsters hiding under your bed and in your closet. They now think that terrorists are hiding in your room. They want to make sure the boogey osama will not jump out from your closet and rob you of your american treasures such as porn magazines, sheep, beer, and rock music.  :rofl
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2006, 09:28:23 AM »
This just from experience, and it didn't make the headlines 15 years ago like it has today probably because there was a democrat in the office...
The City of Tacoma installed cameras on several street corners, shopping areas in and around an area called "Hilltop" in Tacoma, that use to be a crime-ridden, crack-dealing area. Low and behold, the ACLU didn't come to the rescue and the the area was cleaned up. Hilltop is now safe to walk after dark. Sure, they added more patrols as well over time since the city is constantly growing, but the cameras did their job. :aok

I'm all for camera surveillence if the community wishes for it. Put it to a vote.  What say you, Chairboy?

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Similarly, residents of Tacoma, Washington's inner-city Hilltop neighborhood formed the Hilltop Action Coalition to combat the drug dealers, gang members, and prostitutes congregating in their streets. The coalition's director, Darlena Gray, says that residents would ask at block meetings why they couldn't use cameras to discourage crime in their neighborhood the way many business owners use cameras to prevent shoplifting. Because the community overwhelmingly backed such a measure, Gray sought and received a federal grant from the Department of Justice for the six cameras currently in operation.

Three minutes away from the camera locations, at a Tacoma police substation, officers can control the cameras with toggle switches and watch the displayed images on a pair of color monitors. An officer will see crimes in progress on the station house monitors and relay the description of the suspects to officers already in the area, who quickly apprehend them. This system works extremely well, considering that the cameras aren't hidden. According to Tacoma police, drug dealers know they are being watched--occasionally they wave at the camera.

Gray says Hilltop residents are supplementing cameras with other measures to take back control of their neighborhood-- from new fences to strategic lighting--and don't find the cameras intrusive. She says their neighborhood was so ravaged with drug- and gang- related violence before the cameras came that residents couldn't even drive down certain streets, and they welcome the change.
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From your article, its says "even in houses".  The BS flag went up, Chairboy, thats colorful journalism that appears to have sucked even the most highly educated like yourself in...

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Building permits should require malls and large apartment complexes to install surveillance cameras, Hurtt said. And if a homeowner requires repeated police response, it is reasonable to require camera surveillance of the property, he said.


Hmm, sounds just like Hilltop. The cameras cover wide areas of residentual properties where crime was high. ;) Guess what, the residents voted on it, it passed and its successful. :aok
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2006, 09:44:43 AM »
if cameras prevent crime, why do i see all the security camera clips on TV showing crimes being committed?

convenience stores being robbed, girls being abducted from parking lots.

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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2006, 09:46:26 AM »
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if cameras prevent crime, why do i see all the security camera clips on TV showing crimes being committed?

convenience stores being robbed, girls being abducted from parking lots.
Most of those cameras are not made obvious. Signs pointing out surveillence does wonders for crime. ;)

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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2006, 10:19:43 AM »
Dallas has installed cameras in Deep Ellum, a notorious party spot. It stopped problems like vandalism, public urination, drug deals, ect. It also caused business to drop at the local bars, cafes and tattoo parlors.It's a double edge sword. The cops are always watching, but then again the cops are always watching.

Rip, before you get all wound up and gung-ho about this, think about Boeing installing a "Rip-cam" and following you all day, everyday, watching your every move and just waiting to can you for 1 slip-up.
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2006, 10:26:37 AM »
police chiefs are by and large socialist democrats.

the aclu would probly not say a thing if they only asked for cameras outside of sporting goods stores that sold guns or ammo.

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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2006, 10:53:37 AM »
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Rip, before you get all wound up and gung-ho about this, think about Boeing installing a "Rip-cam" and following you all day, everyday, watching your every move and just waiting to can you for 1 slip-up.


Thats the problem rpm, perception. The press is blowing this totally out of proportion and you're buying it.  Installing cameras in high crime areas, if voted in by residents, *is* the cure for lowering crime. Its been proven. No one is talking about Bedroom cams, or Work cams.

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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2006, 11:13:31 AM »
Yet another miss-leading thread title from Chairboy.  There was no reference in the entire article about having a camera IN YOUR HOUSE.  It said complex wich means outside.  

Granted I don't want to be watched all the time but outside your home do you REALLY have a reasonable expectation of privacy?  Are you guys against security cameras in Gas Stations as well?  I mean who knows who could be watching you buy condoms and a  nudy mag?  It's also good to point out that those same survailence cameras have helped bring numerous criminals to justice for killings and robberys.......but it's an invasion of your so called privacy in a public place so get rid of them and let the crime spree rein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:t

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