Author Topic: EZmode bombsight (Read 3250 times)

ChopSaw · « **Reply #60 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:22:15 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
teH buffz are teh earsy modeZ. Tey reprezzzent no teh challenz. That better for ya?

Make them a little more chalenging and you may gain some pilots to offset the ones you think will stop flying them. So, as the web site states, we dont drop bombs because it is really not a challenge and therefore borring. We don't want the buffs removed but rather to become a chalenge and therefore fun to fly. Do you understand why you got the responce you got or are we going back to whaaaaaa BK sqeeek BK and buffs,, whaaaaaa.

You dont think they are easy? Get ina fighter. I ll dog fight you in a B26 or b17.

Ah, I see. I think I’ve got your words decoded now. You’re a Blue Knight and you take exception to my comments regarding your squad. My comments refer to the collection of posts your squad members have made regarding bombers. Not just the posting on this thread, but many others. With little or no exception they are a litany of complaints about bombers. Anything from the guns on bombers are too easy to the bombs are too powerful and now calibration is too easy.

I wanted to point out that the Blue Knights exclusive concern is air to air combat and that they find anything which might detract from that unacceptable. Such as a group of bombers taking out the fighter hangers of a field they’re furballing at or a field actually being taken and ruining the fun they were having furballing. I believe the quote from the Blue Knight web site, “This squad has no ranks, no chain of command, no officers, nor do we have a squad night… We don't fly missions, we don't drop bombs, we don't take bases… We fight… We’re good at it…”, says a great deal about your position. In addition, the disdain you show for others who do not share your view is self evident. I feel there is a lack of validity in anything the Blue Knights have to say regarding bombers. They’re too self interested and more than a little interested in denigrating others not of their “rarified talent”. There is also a tendency by the Blue Knights to become abusive and that too is evident.

And of course the challenge to someone who disagrees with you, “DA me”. I do not believe I will be accommodating you in your challenge to dog fight you in a heavy bomber. How you got there from the original topic, bomb sight issues, is not entirely unsurprising. Go back to your baby words if you must. I’d prefer you didn’t, but it’s your choice and image.

Mugzeee · « **Reply #61 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:34:22 PM »

Chopsaw...I see you are getting Funky Text like i was....are you using MS Word?

ChopSaw · « **Reply #62 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:41:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Mugzeee
Chopsaw...I see you are getting Funky Text like i was....are you using MS Word?

Yes, I'm using MS Word to do some of my editing. I'm not sure what you mean by "Funky Text". It looks okay on the post to me. Is it reading strangely on your computer?

SuperDud · « **Reply #63 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:11:53 PM »

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
Ah, I see. I think I’ve got your words decoded now. You’re a Blue Knight and you take exception to my comments regarding your squad. My comments refer to the collection of posts your squad members have made regarding bombers. Not just the posting on this thread, but many others. With little or no exception they are a litany of complaints about bombers. Anything from the guns on bombers are too easy to the bombs are too powerful and now calibration is too easy.

I wanted to point out that the Blue Knights exclusive concern is air to air combat and that they find anything which might detract from that unacceptable. Such as a group of bombers taking out the fighter hangers of a field they’re furballing at or a field actually being taken and ruining the fun they were having furballing. I believe the quote from the Blue Knight web site, “This squad has no ranks, no chain of command, no officers, nor do we have a squad night… We don't fly missions, we don't drop bombs, we don't take bases… We fight… We’re good at it…”, says a great deal about your position. In addition, the disdain you show for others who do not share your view is self evident. I feel there is a lack of validity in anything the Blue Knights have to say regarding bombers. They’re too self interested and more than a little interested in denigrating others not of their “rarified talent”. There is also a tendency by the Blue Knights to become abusive and that too is evident.

And of course the challenge to someone who disagrees with you, “DA me”. I do not believe I will be accommodating you in your challenge to dog fight you in a heavy bomber. How you got there from the original topic, bomb sight issues, is not entirely unsurprising. Go back to your baby words if you must. I’d prefer you didn’t, but it’s your choice and image.

This arguement has been brought up time and again so theres no use getting into it again. I will say for the 1st 3 months of my AH career I was a bomber pilot in a squad and in that short amount of time it quickly became stale and I looked to the more challenging fighters. ALL of the guys in my squad have been playing for years and years and while we might be a fighter squad we all have done and know how to bomb, it's not exactly brain surgery.

One other thing, we aren't against bombers. We are just tired of the way they are used. Most of the time(like just last night at A39) it's just some griefer who we've killed 10 times in a fighter who can't think of any other way to get back at us than to drop the FHs. In legit base captures or missions, blow the poop outta the hangars. But the guys who does it for no other reason than to ruinin not only the BKs fun but those we are fighting(the bombers own team mates) is sad and childish.

Mugzeee · « **Reply #64 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:20:02 PM »

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
Yes, I'm using MS Word to do some of my editing. I'm not sure what you mean by "Funky Text". It looks okay on the post to me. Is it reading strangely on your computer?

I believe the quote from the Blue Knight web site, ï¿½This squad has no ranks, no chain of command, no officers, nor do we have a squad nightï¿½ We don't fly missions, we don't drop bombs, we don't take basesï¿½ We fightï¿½ Weï¿½re good at itï¿½ï¿½, says a great deal about your position. In addition, the disdain you show for others who do not share your view is self evident. I feel there is a lack of validity in anything the Blue Knights have to say regarding bombers. Theyï¿½re too self interested and more than a little interested in denigrating others not of their ï¿½rarified talentï¿½. There is also a tendency by the Blue Knights to become abusive and that too is evident.

Check out all the question marks. This is from your post a few rows up. Are you also using Mozilla FireFox?
I am trying to track down the problem. It seems to have something to do with the "Character Encoding" settings. But nothing i do is fixing it. I am still working on it. I will let you know when i figure it out.

dedalos · « **Reply #65 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:23:08 PM »

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
Ah, I see. I think I’ve got your words decoded now. You’re a Blue Knight and you take exception to my comments regarding your squad. My comments refer to the collection of posts your squad members have made regarding bombers. Not just the posting on this thread, but many others. With little or no exception they are a litany of complaints about bombers. Anything from the guns on bombers are too easy to the bombs are too powerful and now calibration is too easy.

I wanted to point out that the Blue Knights exclusive concern is air to air combat and that they find anything which might detract from that unacceptable. Such as a group of bombers taking out the fighter hangers of a field they’re furballing at or a field actually being taken and ruining the fun they were having furballing. I believe the quote from the Blue Knight web site, “This squad has no ranks, no chain of command, no officers, nor do we have a squad night… We don't fly missions, we don't drop bombs, we don't take bases… We fight… We’re good at it…”, says a great deal about your position. In addition, the disdain you show for others who do not share your view is self evident. I feel there is a lack of validity in anything the Blue Knights have to say regarding bombers. They’re too self interested and more than a little interested in denigrating others not of their “rarified talent”. There is also a tendency by the Blue Knights to become abusive and that too is evident.

And of course the challenge to someone who disagrees with you, “DA me”. I do not believe I will be accommodating you in your challenge to dog fight you in a heavy bomber. How you got there from the original topic, bomb sight issues, is not entirely unsurprising. Go back to your baby words if you must. I’d prefer you didn’t, but it’s your choice and image.

I see what the problem is here. You are not capable of understanding anything you read in the web site or that I said. Let me try again.

Paragraph1. You are right. You had no argument. Just an attack to the squad. Nothing new here about the easy mode. Its exactly what I said. Its too easy, therefore not a chalenge, therefore we dont like to fly them.

Paragraph2. Wrong. Only thing I find unacceptable is killing the FHs just to stop the fight. (for example, furball island or town). The rest you just made up. Not to mention that you are the one who attacked first.

Paragraph3. You just refuse to see the meaning of what was posted. Its not a DA me chalenge (I never have chalenged anyone to DA). As I said, get in a fighter and I will dog fight you in a b26. Just to show you that it is easy. You should win, but the fact that there is even going to be a fight, should be pruff that buffs are easy.

Offcorse, you are more interested in BK bashing and not at anything else.

Here is a funny thing for ya. You though I was chalenging you to DA me in a buff and you did not accept?

ChopSaw · « **Reply #66 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:31:07 PM »

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Originally posted by SuperDud
This arguement has been brought up time and again so theres no use getting into it again. I will say for the 1st 3 months of my AH career I was a bomber pilot in a squad and in that short amount of time it quickly became stale and I looked to the more challenging fighters. ALL of the guys in my squad have been playing for years and years and while we might be a fighter squad we all have done and know how to bomb, it's not exactly brain surgery.

One other thing, we aren't against bombers. We are just tired of the way they are used. Most of the time(like just last night at A39) it's just some griefer who we've killed 10 times in a fighter who can't think of any other way to get back at us than to drop the FHs. In legit base captures or missions, blow the poop outta the hangars. But the guys who does it for no other reason than to ruinin not only the BKs fun but those we are fighting(the bombers own team mates) is sad and childish.

I agree. Such behavior is sad and childish. Short of decreasing bombers abilities still further, how might such situations be eliminated? I don’t bomb that way or for those reasons myself and I discourage those that do.

My conclusion as to the Blue Knights stance was drawn from what I saw on your web site as well as the postings I’ve seen from that squads members.

Just for the record, I’m not a huge fan of the new calibrating method. In fact I use a version of the old calibrating method and get faster and more accurate calibrations under current conditions. In AH1 using the older style of calibrating I was able to get pinpoint accuracy. I don’t see that going back to the old method is going to decrease the accuracy so I don't see a large benefit to eliminating the new method. I do, however, see a decrease in the splash damage my bombs are doing and that is annoying.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #67 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:34:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Mugzeee
I believe the quote from the Blue Knight web site, ï¿½This squad has no ranks, no chain of command, no officers, nor do we have a squad nightï¿½ We don't fly missions, we don't drop bombs, we don't take basesï¿½ We fightï¿½ Weï¿½re good at itï¿½ï¿½, says a great deal about your position. In addition, the disdain you show for others who do not share your view is self evident. I feel there is a lack of validity in anything the Blue Knights have to say regarding bombers. Theyï¿½re too self interested and more than a little interested in denigrating others not of their ï¿½rarified talentï¿½. There is also a tendency by the Blue Knights to become abusive and that too is evident.

Check out all the question marks. This is from your post a few rows up. Are you also using Mozilla FireFox?
I am trying to track down the problem. It seems to have something to do with the "Character Encoding" settings. But nothing i do is fixing it. I am still working on it. I will let you know when i figure it out.

Weird, it doesn’t show that way when I read the post on my computer. I think it’s because I copied and pasted from the Blue Knight web site. I’m using IE for a browser.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #68 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:44:06 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
I see what the problem is here. You are not capable of understanding anything you read in the web site or that I said. Let me try again.

Paragraph1. You are right. You had no argument. Just an attack to the squad. Nothing new here about the easy mode. Its exactly what I said. Its too easy, therefore not a chalenge, therefore we dont like to fly them.

Paragraph2. Wrong. Only thing I find unacceptable is killing the FHs just to stop the fight. (for example, furball island or town). The rest you just made up. Not to mention that you are the one who attacked first.

Paragraph3. You just refuse to see the meaning of what was posted. Its not a DA me chalenge (I never have chalenged anyone to DA). As I said, get in a fighter and I will dog fight you in a b26. Just to show you that it is easy. You should win, but the fact that there is even going to be a fight, should be pruff that buffs are easy.

Offcorse, you are more interested in BK bashing and not at anything else.

Here is a funny thing for ya. You though I was chalenging you to DA me in a buff and you did not accept?

Kid, your intelligence amazes me. It’s obviously far beyond my own. So far, in fact, it is difficult for me to understand your train of thought.

In the end….whatever you have to or want to tell yourself. I’m not going to pursue a flame war.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #69 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:59:04 PM »

Chopsaw, 2 things. One, everytime there's a bomber thread, someone starts in with "BKs want bombers removed from the game, you guys don't bomb, you just want to ruin our fun, blah blah blah". Try a different tact.

Second, that website is rarely updated, if ever. With the exception of maybe the roster, and a few of the films, it's pretty stagnant. With so many of the squad passed out drunk, or in the nursing home, getting anything done is somewhat challenging.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #70 on:** February 22, 2006, 05:08:17 PM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Chopsaw, 2 things. One, everytime there's a bomber thread, someone starts in with "BKs want bombers removed from the game, you guys don't bomb, you just want to ruin our fun, blah blah blah". Try a different tact.

Second, that website is rarely updated, if ever. With the exception of maybe the roster, and a few of the films, it's pretty stagnant. With so many of the squad passed out drunk, or in the nursing home, getting anything done is somewhat challenging.

It could be the reason they start in with that isn’t related to your web site as much as it is to your postings as a group. The web site helps of course. If the tact fits, wear it.

You make it sound as if your squad is sliding down a slope into decay and neglect. My sympathies for your decline.

dedalos · « **Reply #71 on:** February 23, 2006, 10:44:24 AM »

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
Kid, your intelligence amazes me. It’s obviously far beyond my own. So far, in fact, it is difficult for me to understand your train of thought.

Correct. Now we are getting somewhere

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I’m not going to pursue a flame war.

Yep, you just start the flaming.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #72 on:** February 23, 2006, 12:48:29 PM »

Like I said, kid, whatever you have to tell yourself.

navajoboy · « **Reply #73 on:** February 23, 2006, 01:59:09 PM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Chopsaw, 2 things. One, everytime there's a bomber thread, someone starts in with "BKs want bombers removed from the game, you guys don't bomb, you just want to ruin our fun, blah blah blah". Try a different tact.

Second, that website is rarely updated, if ever. With the exception of maybe the roster, and a few of the films, it's pretty stagnant. With so many of the squad passed out drunk, or in the nursing home, getting anything done is somewhat challenging.

so i take it your in the nursing home?
I am surprise to see Morph speak about bombers. Thinking of Morph in bombers is like seeing an old lady naked. The after thoughts are scary. So i would see what chopsaw is talking about. But I also wouldn't be surprise to see 1st LT Laz and Capt Superdud rolling M3s to a string of Vehicle bases.... that thought too is scary..

Flayed1 · « **Reply #74 on:** February 23, 2006, 03:10:43 PM »

"Correct me if i am wrong. But your quoting me has implications of calling me a liar or written all over it."

WOOAAAHHH there guy I had no intention of calling anyone a liar nor to my recolection have I ever called anyone a liar on this forum.
I was just curious if it was your net connection as I havent seen others post or remember anyone talking about lag issues effecting bomb calibratin.

Geez man lighten up I've always tried to post in a way that wasn't offencive to others with 1 exception. So I'm sorry if you took it that way.

"Personally I feel the reduction in splash damage of the bombs is a response to the addition of B-24’s. They carry two more of the 1K bombs. In AH1 I could drop a single salvo of 1K bombs on a hanger and drop it. With 8 salvo’s available I’d be able to drop all the hangers on a large field including the VH. Or a more likely scenario, be able to drop hangers twice on a small or medium field. Now I have to take up hanger bangers (2K bombs) to reliably nail the hangers. No way to do it with the 1K unless I drop two salvos. The end result of this has been to make the B-24 less effective in AH2 than the B-17 was in AH1.

Makes you wonder what they’ll do if we ever get the B-29? A bomber with a payload of 20K. Reduce the effectiveness of the bombs again?"

I see your point chopsaw but I dumped a salvo of 4 1000 pounders from each plane on 2 hangers with the usuall perfect calibration and no damage or at least no visible effect:huh I mean come on that much ord and nothing? maybe it was just a glitch in the game but it was well annoying.