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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2006, 08:09:20 PM »
a human rio should be optional in a jet sim with 2 seaters. Lock-on commie creators are too lazy to code a rio into the game so they wont model an F14. They also think that people will always want the front seat. another reason for not doing any 2 seat planes.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2006, 08:17:50 PM »
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a human rio should be optional in a jet sim with 2 seaters. Lock-on commie creators are too lazy to code a rio into the game so they wont model an F14. They also think that people will always want the front seat. another reason for not doing any 2 seat planes.


i hear ya.  i'm sure the RIO (thanks, pooface. lol) would be geared more towards mission-motivated...keep it as real as you can...squadrons, like the squad I'm in.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2006, 02:41:38 AM »
Air Warrior had a Korean War arena and a WWI arena. The WWII arenas were vastly more popular.

The problem with Korean War jet combat was that it took forever to have a dogfight. Ranges were often huge, and at such high speeds, at a human's g limit, it takes a long time to do 360 degrees compared to WWII dogfights. Saddling up took a long time but lasted only briefly, and then you'd have your shot at about 1000 yards. Almost no one flew in that arena. Vietnam would be in many ways worse, with even larger ranges to target. Also, in the jet theaters, you don't have much variety in aircraft.

The problem with WWI combat was mainly that everything was a turnfight with little tiny maneuving radii, needing your forward-up view, but you can't see squat in your forward-up view because of the wing in your way. So, you follow what you think is the enemy, get a brief view of him (maybe for a shot) as your view between your gunsight and upper wing zooms past him. Finding that he did a maneuver you couldn't see while he was blocked by your upper wing, you correct into another tight-radius move, and so on. It was more popular than Korean War, but really, the upshot of it all is:

In my opinion, WWII is the golden age of aerial combat and is vastly superior in fun and excitement to any other era of air combat. It has the best mix of speed, maneuvering, range, visibility, variety of aircraft, and whatever undefinable attributes that give air combat its feeling of excitement and gusto.

So, rather than HTC adding theaters for WWI, Korea, or Vietnam, I'd rather they just kept adding to the WWII aspects.

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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2006, 03:29:50 AM »
If you want to fly WWI style, fight in Vals.

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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2006, 09:55:03 AM »
If only for dueling we can get a pair of biplanes like Fokker D7 and SE5a, just for fun, i whis it will hapens sometime.

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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2006, 04:33:16 PM »
Some great posts here. I appreciate your comments. Just curious though.....what is Vals?

I just think it would be fun to have another WWI sim available.

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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2006, 04:41:09 PM »
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Some great posts here. I appreciate your comments. Just curious though.....what is Vals?

I just think it would be fun to have another WWI sim available.

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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2006, 04:54:30 PM »
It's called Black Shark.

http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?end_pos=950&scr=default&lang=en

I D/L'd the beta last night, gonna check it out as soon as I get home from work. 2 hours and 12 minutes ;p

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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2006, 11:43:36 PM »
mano, you from Richthofens skies? the pig stompers are my squads sworn enemy, were the 95th kicking mules! RS is doing great alot of people cant handle the learning curve tho, DOA had htcs trademark relaxed realism elements that made for a very fun game, RS is hardcore in terms of realism, most people cant handle having to hold their joystick sideways to compensate for the camels insane torque, and lack of trim. The true joys and pitfals of the Fokker EIII make most people run for another sim. Once technology catches up, and lag becomes less of an issue because of the close combat, WWI will have its silver age.

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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2006, 04:37:44 AM »
Gimme My DR1!
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2006, 05:08:53 AM »
SPAD XIII !

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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2006, 05:28:40 AM »
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for the furballers out there, I think a WW1 sim would be the epitomy of the art.

kind of which HT would consider it, I know I would enjoy it throughly


Hi Mano.....been a long time. S! Sir

I spoke to Hitech a few years back about this topic and it was very apparent that WWI would never happen at HitechCreations. He was very clear that he had no interest in WWI and seeing he is the developer, you can take that to the bank.

I do agree that the AH game engine, developed with WWI aircraft, would be a TOTAL blast. I miss flying my DR1.

Maybe if HT receives enough interest (emails) on this topic, he might reconsider but as it looks right now, hitechcreations will only be WWII.  :cry

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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2006, 02:35:07 PM »
I keep fantasizing that HTC will release some dev tools and we can go nuts making WWI and Korean era aircraft. We have the talent in the community.

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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2006, 03:19:20 PM »
but, but...there weren't any F4 Phantoms in Korea!  :cry
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2006, 03:28:01 PM »
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but, but...there weren't any F4 Phantoms in Korea!  :cry


The current game engine supports everything we need from WWI to Korean era. Vietnam and further would need code for radar, missles, supersonic flight, etc...

Play Lock On for your missle jockey kicks. I do :)