Protesters have more rights than their "Victims"

[lasersailor184]

Yeah, cos cops are always right.

Especially city cops.

[xrtoronto]

astac I know these people can be a real problem...there have been more than one instance in this city where women wearing 20k dollar fur coats end up getting paint thrown on them walking downtown...

i have lots of leather stuff too...including my new recliner and ottoman...all i'm saying is in front of my 4 yr old i wouldn't have done that

I have no empathy with those people

[nirvana]

http://www.peta-sucks.com


You have to have a permit to protest?  I thought everyone had the right to peacefully assemble.  


The way I see it, Astac got in trouble because the PETA *******s, as a group, could form a mini riot, where as Astac, his wife, and their children, couldn't do nearly as much damage.  Bull**** though that they can use profane language (public obscenity, not protected by the 1st amendment) and get away with it.  Just like the recent KKK rally where 5 or so people were arrested.  They have a right to assemble and you have to respect it, PETA deserves no respect at all though, domestic terrorists is all they are.

[RTR]

Yes, we must protect the rights of all who wish to interfere with our kids and cause them anguish. The fact that the kids are looking forward to a fun day should not take any bearing. They must be brow beaten and intimidated into accepting the "proper views", that thier parents are so obviously lacking in giving them.

You want to protest and spout your views?  You are free to do so. You are not free however, to talk to, or interact with my children in anyway whatsoever without my express permission.

Would I have lost my temper?  You bet.

What would my kids have gotten out of that?  Maybe that Dad isn't going to allow anybody to make them feel bad for something that is entirely not thier fault.

There is something drastically wrong when a mob has the right to make kids feel sad, just to make thier point.

Said my piece.  I'm out

RTR

[Bodhi]

4- Members should post in a way that is respectful of other users and HTC. Flaming or abusing users is not tolerated.

[Gunslinger]

Yes Nirvana, in order to protest on PUBLIC property (IE the street) you need a permit.  The city will usually provide cops at great expense for crowd control.  If you have multiple groups protesting eachother in a small confined area chances are it will get ugly and cease to be a protest while becoming a riot.

I'm with ASTAC on this one.  He showed restraint untill they involved the kids.  THey have no right to do that.  These people think animals should have more rights than humans.  There is no arguing with them as they do not want to hear what you have to say.  They are quick to "upset" with animal "insensativity" yet hold no courtesy for anyone of the opposite opinion.  

Not to defend the cop but he was probably preventing a bad situation from getting worse.

[CavemanJ]

The cop is probably a card carrying PETA member.

[Shaky]

Originally posted by xrtoronto
astac I know these people can be a real problem...there have been more than one instance in this city where women wearing 20k dollar fur coats end up getting paint thrown on them walking downtown...

i have lots of leather stuff too...including my new recliner and ottoman...all i'm saying is in front of my 4 yr old i wouldn't have done that

I have no empathy with those people

It also seems you have no empathy for those who have theior children terrorized by these whackos.

[capt. apathy]

when my kids were little I had a perfect defense to the Peta morons.

my girls would sing a song whenever we ran into them (thank God it wasn't very often.  but around here it happens more often than most places).  the girls were all dressed up in there going-out dresses, and 4 and 6  years old I actually saw them make a couple Peta freaks cry.

I don't know the name of the song but here are the lyrics.  teach it to your kids.



way up north where it's cold, and you know there ain't no gold
people make a living off of seal skins they have sold

but me, I like to kill-'um because it's so full-fill'n
and I hate to see a baby seal grow old

now you don't kill a seal because you want a meal
you kill 'm just because you want to hear the little sucker squeal

you smash in their head, and now this parts just for kicks
you poke them in the eyes with your eye-poking-sticks


during the last line they do their eye-poking dance.  they twirl around while making poking motions with their fingers.

it's all very cute.

they're older now and won't do the seal song anymore.
the oldest turned into a vegetarian.

oh well it was fun while it lasted.

[nirvana]

Great Capt.



I always thought that if you kept it peaceful and orderly, without screwing stuff up "protesting in the middle of traffic/causing accidents) then you were fine, so much for 8th grade social studies.  Time to go slaughter a seal.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by nirvana
Great Capt.



I always thought that if you kept it peaceful and orderly, without screwing stuff up "protesting in the middle of traffic/causing accidents) then you were fine, so much for 8th grade social studies.  Time to go slaughter a seal.

I guess it all depends on the municipality.  There's a thin line sometimes between protests and riots.

[eagl]

ASTAC,

I strongly recommend writing a complaint and sending it to the local police authorities.  The cops aren't supposed to choose sides and if there is the possibility of a confrontation, they need to deal with both sides fairly.  In other words, the cops should disperse the crowd in addition to asking you to cease your activities.

A letter to the local newspaper editors might also be appropriate, as well as a letter to the mayor.  Why?  Because those protestors must receive permission to gather in large groups like that, and one condition for the permit being granted is a set of conditions to avoid violence.  If the police must still step in to prevent violence, it can affect the future granting of permits, and therefore the fact that the police had to step in and threaten to arrest YOU should negatively affect future protest activities because they led to a police intervention.

In any case, I suggest the complaint to the police, combined with letters to the local newspapers and the mayor's office.

[rogwar]

Originally posted by Furball
shoulda gone and got a family bucket from KFC and ate it infront of them.

While wearing a fur coat

ASTAC,

As a parent, (as well as hunter and fisherman) I'm in agreement with your take on the situation. If they wanna protest fine but at the moment they start to engage your children, or my daughter with their BS, that's when they cross the line, my line.

Guns,

Welcome to Texas! Thankfully we don't have to put up with much, if any of this here.


Furball,

Fur clothing is not my thing and KFC has gone downhill around here at least, but maybe a trip to the local 2nd hand or Goodwill store (rabbit fur is OK) and KFC prior to my next visit with my daughter to the circus might be in order.

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Albiet here in Texas they would likely have their permit for several streets away. Now that you mention it 2 years ago I remember taking my daughter to the RB & BB Circus and there were a few folks protesting but about 1000 yards away as we were driving in to the arena parking.


Anyone remember the good old PETA posting days? Those were some great moments in O Club history.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by xrtoronto
since when is a 'good person' identified as launching a personal public attack and illustrating to two young boys that it is ok to do so and use profanity in front of all kinds of women and children to make your point?

I would have thrown your arse in jail.

Nice parenting there

riiiiiiiiiiight... teach you kids to take it up the backside from a bunch of left wing lesbian vegetarian tree hugging whale saving man hating hippies. I respect a guy that teaches his kids to stand up to these bullies instead of bending over like a pollitically correct nansy boy.

If some whacko started screaming in the face of my kid he'd end up on the deck fairly quickly with me claiming he 'touched' my child... maybe some jailtime with 'Bubba' and the gang would teach these PETA turds some real world realities.

Protest does not allow you to harass kids.

[Pooh21]

Originally posted by xrtoronto
time for a reality check...the cop wouldn't have threatened to lock you up if you weren't acting socially irresponsible

Sieg Heil!