Protesters have more rights than their "Victims"

[lazs2]

Yep gotta agree.... if some whacko starts talking to children in my family I am gonna tell them to shut up.  If they continue and the police do nothing to protect my children then I will do it.

lazs

[FiLtH]

I like meat. I wear animal skins. I dont like people in my face because of it. However, the idea of having wild animals perform tricks is a bit outdated. Zoos are one thing..the circus is another.

[Hangtime]

Upset my kids with a confrontation.. continue to do so after a strenuous verbal caution not to do so..

oh, man.. ASTAC I admire your restraint.

Toronto, first rule of parenting... protect your children. You may think it's appropriate to let your kids and wife know you can't do jack to protect 'em...  I'd call you a grapefruit and a POS if you let it happen.

[Shamus]

Crowd control is tough duty, I suspect the cop was doing what he thought would defuse the situation with the least amount of problems.

I would think most cops wouldnt be on the side of the peta pukes.

shamus

[Mickey1992]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Upset my kids with a confrontation.. continue to do so after a strenuous verbal caution not to do so...

It's called taunting.  If it involves children and profanity, no court is going to uphold a charge of "disturbing the peace" against you.

The next time the circus is in town, wear a wire or a video camera.  Imagine how many new members to the anti-PETA club you could muster with audio/video of PETA members yelling profanities at kids.

[midnight Target]

This happened to me once when my daughters were little. I sent my 9 year old into a store to pay for my gasoline. She was excited to be doing such a grown up thing and ran into the store with the money. Some dimwit yelled at her for running outside the store. I lost it.  He saw me come out of my car like a shot (I was yelling too, don't think I cussed but history forgot to record my words) and immediately began backpedalling while making excuses. He apologized before I could get near him.... dangit.

Don't have a clue what he actually said to her, but nothing makes my blood boil faster than when my kids are under attack... verbally or any other way.

[USHilDvl]

I agree with ASTAC...I don't care what someone's meaningless personal agenda of the day is...and why the hell should I?  (BTW...I am a complete animal lover...just not a PETA fanatic)

Got a beef? (and who doesn't have thier own axe to grind these days...it's the national hobby!)...then go ahead and meet up...carry your little signs...march around in circles...whatever.

Get anywhere near my kids...or try to manipulate their emotions...or even risk making one of them cry...and I will rain Hell down on anyone, anywhere at anytime.

Never...Ever...EVER...mess with my children.  End of discussion.


...and when the cops lose sight of this (I have a RIGHT to be left the hell alone)..then they are wrong.  Happens all the time.

In my opinion...even if you are right, the minute you involve children in adult issues...you are instantly wrong.  Dissenters...I don't relate to where you're coming from...but protecting my own children from being accosted by perfect strangers is my A-number-one priority.  Should be yours, too.  If you don't think so, check your own parenting.  Gonna teach your children that they must subject themselves to the whims of others, no matter what?  What, are we all to be victims to the cravenly PC?

I also agree with Vulcan...do something like this to my kids and, especially if I see a tear, you're gonna eat pavement.  And around here, I'll tell the cops you touched my kid, or made a lewd suggestion, and the problem is solved.  

The RIGHT to protest is fundamental to this country, and I am absolutely committed to it.  However, the nature and means of peacful protest does NOT involve accosting small children.




PS...sorry for the terrible, but unintended, pun.

[xrtoronto]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Toronto, first rule of parenting... protect your children. You may think it's appropriate to let your kids and wife know you can't do jack to protect 'em...  I'd call you a grapefruit and a POS if you let it happen.

I agree 100%...I had the picture wrong...we don't have PETA up here (that I know of)...I had no idea they were that threatening and aggressive. The only thing I've known of PETA prior to this is the story(s) of PETA members throwing paint on the expensive fur coats of a couple of women (and that was years ago)

I originally made my statement because I thought astac didn't like this group and 'made a scene' which drew the attention of police. I never imagined the scenerio you guys are painting here. Knowing what I know now I whole-heartedly agree with astacs response.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Furball
shoulda gone and got a family bucket from KFC and ate it infront of them.

sausages/bacon/pork scratchings would have been even better.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by xrtoronto
time for a reality check...the cop wouldn't have threatened to lock you up if you weren't acting socially irresponsible

Or is the reality check more like the cop wouldnt have if there were 200 of him mocking the few protesters and not the other way around.

Seems to me the protesters were acting far more socially irresponcable or at the very least only as bad as him. yet its far easier to lock one guy up then a couple hundred.

He quite simply was the easier of the two targets

[SOB]

Originally posted by beet1e
sausages/bacon/pork scratchings would have been even better.

No matter the situation or the question, bacon is always better.

[xrtoronto]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Seems to me the protesters were acting far more socially irresponcable or at the very least only as bad as him. yet its far easier to lock one guy up then a couple hundred.

this is where a line of policmen on horseback become real effective

[lasersailor184]

this is where a line of policmen on horseback become real effective

Isn't that just antagonizing Peta?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by xrtoronto
this is where a line of policmen on horseback become real effective

And if thats the way they did it then it would be fine, but more often then not they go after the easy out.

In this case it would have been ASTAC. Even though he was the one provoked it woulda been him going to jail and not the ones that started it, the protestors.

[Seagoon]

Hi ASTAC,

Over the past few years PETA has actually started aiming their campaigns directly at children, as they rightly figure they are more impressionable, and more easily emotionally manipulated. Their hopes are that the next generation will "feel" their way through life in a manner similar to the Hollywood nitwits they get to appear in their ads.

Here is an example from a recent campaign, the Boston Herald ran an article on December 17, 2003 reporting that

"Animal rights advocates will single out small children at performances of "The Nutcracker" in the next few weeks by handing out fliers saying "Your Mommy Kills Animals" to youngsters whose mothers are wearing fur.

Lisa Franzetta, a national coordinator for PETA, said the group will launch its "fur-ocious" protest at `Nutcracker' performances in as many as 20 cities across the United States.

Worldnet Daily went on to comment on the campaign:

"The fliers feature a woman stabbing a terrified rabbit in the belly with a bloody knife, reports the Boston Herald. Text on the pamphlets urges kids to "ask your mommy how many dead animals she killed to make her fur clothes."

"Children can't look up to a mom in a battered-raccoon hat or a crushed coyote collar,'' Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, told the paper. "Maybe when they're confronted by their own children's hurt looks, fur-wearers' cold hearts will melt.''

According to the report, the fliers even urge children to protect their pets from mom: "The sooner she stops wearing fur, the sooner the animals will be safe. Until then, keep your doggie or kitty friends away from mommy – she's an animal killer.''

Here's the flier they actually handed out to kids: