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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2006, 11:31:44 PM »
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Fact, fear, and loathing

In other words... don't worry about 'em.

oh... and

Snopes is your friend.

This is also a good read.


Just curious, what point were you trying to make there?  The first link is about Brown Recluse spiders living in California, and the Snopes article is listed as "undetermined".  

If you were trying to say that people blow the potential for a bite from these spiders out of proportion, then you have a valid point.  But having seen the results of a bite firsthand, and having grown up in Southern Illinois and Southeast Missouri, I know all too well the fear of being one of those on the smaller side of the statistics.  

I admit freely, I dont like spiders to start with.  But I recognize the benefits vs irrational fear and mostly leave them alone.  I live on the principle of instant eradication however, when it comes to the Brown Recluse or Black Widow.  Even though its likely that if one SHOULD bite me it would not be fatal, why take the chance?  As far as i can tell, these two species of spider serve no natural purpose that the others cant fill in for, and they are actually potentially dangerous to humans.  You do as you please.  If I see one its gettin squashed.

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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2006, 11:35:32 PM »
I sure hope they are on an endangered species list and are protected by the Feds. You guys are heartless.

I hope the feds will use our new eminent domain laws to evict any Neanderthal who is harming them  (and seize their property in a process of course). The proceeds from the sale of the property should go to the PETA and ALF

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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2006, 11:40:02 PM »
Squashing PETA nuts would be even more satisfying than squashing spiders.  By all means, call them.  :)

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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2006, 12:02:40 AM »
Being a plumber I thank God that we dont have them this far north. (Atleast I havent heard of any) The other day I was in a crawlspace changing out old copper to pex. Spiders were everywhere. Days like that I hate my job.

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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2006, 12:33:43 AM »
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Being a plumber I thank God that we dont have them this far north. (Atleast I havent heard of any) The other day I was in a crawlspace changing out old copper to pex. Spiders were everywhere. Days like that I hate my job.


Bigger man than me, because I flat out could not do that!

I hate spiders in every sense of the word.  Hell just reading those articles gave me the creeps, I'll probably have spider nightmares tonight.

What a freaking pansy I am!
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2006, 12:41:04 AM »
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I sure hope they are on an endangered species list and are protected by the Feds. You guys are heartless.

I hope the feds will use our new eminent domain laws to evict any Neanderthal who is harming them  (and seize their property in a process of course). The proceeds from the sale of the property should go to the PETA and ALF


You've got to be kidding me, evict me for killing spiders? Please be jokeing. If yor not jokeing then tell both peta and alf which part of the squished spider they can kiss. I hate spiders, I've hated spiders since I was in pigtails, and I'll breathe my last breath squishing them flat, wipeing them up with toliet paper, and flushing them down the toliet.

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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2006, 12:41:47 AM »
When I was little, I wasn't afraid of spiders since I didn't see a lot of them in IL, mostly Wolf Spiders that were more cool than creepy.

Then I saw Arachnophobia. THAT did it.


I kill spiders and then torch the body.

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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2006, 01:05:06 AM »
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Bigger man than me, because I flat out could not do that!

I hate spiders in every sense of the word.  Hell just reading those articles gave me the creeps, I'll probably have spider nightmares tonight.

What a freaking pansy I am!


I am with you. I used to shoot them with my BB gun, that way I wouldnt have to get close.


Only dady longlegs live, all other spiders die as soon as I can kill them.


The one time I decided to not kill on that was on my celing, I left it alone about a week, then one night I didnt see it and when I pulled back my blanket the ****er was in my bed.  They just creep me out, I have the creeps right now after reading that stuff sandy posted.


I have read it before though and there are none in my area.  Black widows are all over though but they are web spiders that like dark places so they are not much of a worry.

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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2006, 07:04:11 AM »
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Just curious, what point were you trying to make there?  The first link is about Brown Recluse spiders living in California, and the Snopes article is listed as "undetermined".  

If you were trying to say that people blow the potential for a bite from these spiders out of proportion, then you have a valid point.  But having seen the results of a bite firsthand, and having grown up in Southern Illinois and Southeast Missouri, I know all too well the fear of being one of those on the smaller side of the statistics.  

I admit freely, I dont like spiders to start with.  But I recognize the benefits vs irrational fear and mostly leave them alone.  I live on the principle of instant eradication however, when it comes to the Brown Recluse or Black Widow.  Even though its likely that if one SHOULD bite me it would not be fatal, why take the chance?  As far as i can tell, these two species of spider serve no natural purpose that the others cant fill in for, and they are actually potentially dangerous to humans.  You do as you please.  If I see one its gettin squashed.


Oh yeah, I like those who downplay the black widow, when I lived in Florida I had one put me in ICU for 17 hours. If I see a daddy long legs or a small white house spider, I usually leave them alone(hey, they are helping me out), but any other spider dies!
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2006, 07:13:04 AM »
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Oh yeah, I like those who downplay the black widow, when I lived in Florida I had one put me in ICU for 17 hours. If I see a daddy long legs or a small white house spider, I usually leave them alone(hey, they are helping me out), but any other spider dies!


We have both in Texas (brown recluse and black widow). The Black widow is not as big as the ones they like to put in movies, but I was amazed at how far one can jump when its pissed off !

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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2006, 08:09:08 AM »
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we have hobo spiders in this part of the country.  just as nasty as the brown recluse.  they also call them 'agressive house spiders'.  only spider I ever saw that will actually run at you from 4-5 feet away.


I don't think you can call them Hobo's anymore, they prefer "residentially challenged" :rolleyes:

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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2006, 08:14:08 AM »
When I was a kid Id capture the meanest looking spider I could find and put it in a jar. Then Id find a couple of ants and hold arena combat.

      Thinking of that reminded me of something funny. My lil brother and I had a model train set HO scale. We had houses and everything on it. We also had a bad gypsy moth catipillar year. So we grabbed a few and had train day. We'd get the train windin around the tracks fast and let the gypsys run wild getting run over. Then we'd play "gasleak" and put one in a model house. The houses had clear plastic windows. Id take a lighter and pump gas into the house. Then touch ot off. Boom...the windows would blow out and the hair on the catipillar would singe and he'd be thrashing around.

    I tried it once in the lichen forest we had. Mind you..this is in the attic of my folks garage. I didnt know lichen was so flammable. I ended up hiking one leg up on top on the train set, crushing out the flames to put it out. Scared the crap outta me!

   Yes..I was a sick, sadistic child. Luckily when I came to the fork in the road at puberty, I took the right towards "Normalcyville", instead of the left fork toward "Dhalmerton".

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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2006, 08:53:19 AM »
tourching baby butterflies!! thats just sick



i like it. :aok



we always have huge fruit spiders on our garden fence and shed.  we would hunt around for the juiciest looking bugs, then throw them into the webs. old fruity would shoot right down, inject, wrap, and then either save it for later, or discard it if it wasnt edible.

my brother and I also would do insect arena fight club. those were fun.  mostly the bugs would sit there and both go 'chit, how do we get out of this bowl? I ain't gunna fight you lad, we need to work together.'

fantastic to see the killer instinct of nature at work when they did fight though.
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2006, 10:13:40 AM »
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Thinking of that reminded me of something funny. My lil brother and I had a model train set HO scale. We had houses and everything on it. We also had a bad gypsy moth catipillar year. So we grabbed a few and had train day. We'd get the train windin around the tracks fast and let the gypsys run wild getting run over. Then we'd play "gasleak" and put one in a model house. The houses had clear plastic windows. Id take a lighter and pump gas into the house. Then touch ot off. Boom...the windows would blow out and the hair on the catipillar would singe and he'd be thrashing around.

I tried it once in the lichen forest we had. Mind you..this is in the attic of my folks garage. I didnt know lichen was so flammable. I ended up hiking one leg up on top on the train set, crushing out the flames to put it out. Scared the crap outta me!

Yes..I was a sick, sadistic child. Luckily when I came to the fork in the road at puberty, I took the right towards "Normalcyville", instead of the left fork toward "Dhalmerton". -Filth


This reminds me of a high school buddy of mine named Al who had a huge HO scale diorama of a WW2 battlefield that filled a whole ping-pong table.  It was so detailed - all soldiers were hand painted and he had posed each one with a hot razor blade, for instance, a dead german soldier hanging from barbed wire with a belly wound bleeding out - it would take you all afternoon with a magnifying to see everything in it.  

My buddy Al did not successfully negotiate the turn in the road towards "Normalcyville."  We grew apart, he got into drugs, got into a home town jam and went to Vietnam with the US Army.   After he got over there, he was practising guick-drawing and twirling his Colt .45 when a Lieutenant came into his hootch, and the gun accidently went off shooting the officer in the neck.  My buddy got into a lot of trouble for that.  :D He also got addicted to heroin over there.  
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Anyway, I never got bit by a spider, but I got stung by scorpion that was sitting on a wooden fence post.  I leaned my arm on it and got stung on my underarm.  I was really doing a dance.  I was ignorant about Florida scorpions, and I thought I was going to die.  I drove myself to the hospital and they gave me steriods.  It turned out to be just one very painful but non life threatening experience.
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2006, 10:26:30 AM »
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Just curious, what point were you trying to make there?  The first link is about Brown Recluse spiders living in California, and the Snopes article is listed as "undetermined".  

If you were trying to say that people blow the potential for a bite from these spiders out of proportion, then you have a valid point.  But having seen the results of a bite firsthand, and having grown up in Southern Illinois and Southeast Missouri, I know all too well the fear of being one of those on the smaller side of the statistics.  

I admit freely, I dont like spiders to start with.  But I recognize the benefits vs irrational fear and mostly leave them alone.  I live on the principle of instant eradication however, when it comes to the Brown Recluse or Black Widow.  Even though its likely that if one SHOULD bite me it would not be fatal, why take the chance?  As far as i can tell, these two species of spider serve no natural purpose that the others cant fill in for, and they are actually potentially dangerous to humans.  You do as you please.  If I see one its gettin squashed.


The article about recluse spiders in California is interesting simply because it speaks to the number of spiders that are probably living in your home if you're in the zone and that bites are still rare. I live in California and most people I know are certain that recluse spiders are a threat even though none of them have ever actually seen one.

The Snopes article points out that they're not certain that the pics are the result of a reclue bite.
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