Originally posted by Seagoon
Nash,
Just a few quick points, as I'm sick as dog, and don't have time for a fuller reply.
1) You seem to be entirely unacquainted with an old fashioned institution called marriage and these little things we call children. Believe it or not it is possible to meet a girl, fall in love, get married, remain faithful, and then actually raise the offspring your lovemaking produces rather than exterminating them in utero. Not only that you actually produce something called a family which is the fundamental building block of society.
2) When I say "You" from now on, do "you" mind if I fold you in with everyone from Leon Trotsky to the Unibomber? I mean "you're" all basically godless lefties right? You all have the same objectives, the same outlook, and the same violent tendencies and so on right?
Get the point?
3) You believe I am somehow a danger to the Republic and to Liberty. And yet the majority of Colonels in the Colonial Army that secured the independence of this nation were Presbyterian elders like myself. The Constitution whose preamble you quoted from, was signed by Presbyterian pastor John Witherspoon, indeed he was perhaps one of the greatest influences on its author James Madison, having taught him in University. Witherspoon and I do not differ in the slightest theologically. Some of my favorite sermons are contained in his collected works which are sitting behind me on the bookshelf. Apparently though, you disagree with Witherspoon's assessment that "It is the man of piety and inward principal that we may be expected to find the uncorrupted patriot."
4) Finally, please consider this, if you consider nothing else I have written: I am not consumed with hatred and rage.
- SEAGOON
Briefly...
In response to 1)
Yeah marriage is good. Why not? But lets never forget that all it is and ever will be (and
should be) is ultimately a pact between two people who love eachother... and outside of those two people, no matter who they are, we would be presumptious dicks for judging that union. You and I have no right to interject ourselves into it. What would even make you
think that this somehow falls under your self important purview? Your Judgement?
Balls to your judjement. Balls to your approval or oversight.
Freedom to love whom we do.
So back off.
In response to 2)
I gave you several examples/reasons as to why I equate "you" with fundamentalists. If all you can come back with is a weak attempt to equate me with the Unibomber, then I just have to conclude that you have no real response to it.
In response to 3)
"You believe I am somehow a danger to the Republic and to Liberty. " - Seagoon.
Yes, I absolutely do. 100%. A danger. No question.
I won't quote your post in its entirety, but encourage the readers here to visit it (above). You don't deny it, and in fact try to make an historical case for
why your religion deserves a place no matter the means. All the while seemingly oblivious as to
why the War of Independence was actually fought. Fer chrissakes.
In response to 4)
"Finally, please consider this, if you consider nothing else I have written: I am not consumed with hatred and rage."
That matters little. Neither are people numbering in the hundreds of thousands and untold millions who have been and are being destroyed with such dismissal. I could not give one good Golly-geen how you've written without "hatred and rage." Your sentiment means something? Tell that to the folks in Darfur. Your selectivity/lethargy is not a badge of honor.
