Originally posted by Ghosth
Funny I had a guy complaining in the TA last night about the death of the DA.
After talking it through with him it became abundantly clear what has really changed in the DA. Its not the 1 on 1 dueling. That still happens just fine, just takes minor amount of coordination.
What everyone seems to be so upset about is not dueling or about dueling. Its about the Free for All. We used to get the FFA in the TA until HT after endlless complaints turned the damage down until no one died.
FFA promptly moved into the DA and set up residence.
The Dueling arena was never set up to be for 15-30 people doing free for all.
It was setup for dueling, 1 on 1 prearranged duels for fun, ladder, or ego's.
The DA is not dead with KS on, but the Free for All sure is.
So I have one question for all of you who are upset with the current state of affairs. WHY the DA? You want anything goes, well thats the Main sir's.
You want a free for all, just head to the main, find the biggest red dar bar and jump into it. Your free to vulch, shoot, bomb, as you please.
So if your in the DA for a FFA, instead of the main, you seriously need to ask yourself WHY!
Last, for all of you who have frequented the DA for the last 2 years this is on your own shoulders. Last sunday I walked into the DA and in less than 10 minutes had things straightened out. And I did it with no powers, no .eject, nothing you don't have.
I did it with 3 things, sheer force of personality, AHfilm, and a phone number.
You all have had your chance, and failed to police the area enough to keep it the way it was. So now its time for something different.
I'm sure we have not heard the last from HTC on this.
Have patience.
I have to disagree here ... and I will tell you why it sucks ... for me.
We have had nights where the squaddies will all go the to DA and FFA amongst ourselfs while all logged in as the same country.
This allowed a constant flow of fights due to the fact that if one died, they immediately launched and literally within seconds was back into the action. If I wanted to just hook up with Morph or Stang, I would initiate the fight over vox and could immediately identify their plane and get into the fight. Also, this was avantageous for other squaddies to indentify and know what fights to stay out of. The current situation does not allow this ... and it SUCKS !!!.
With KS on, for those who followed the rules, many more fights could be had in one DA session in one night than you could get in 2 days now in the DA with KS off. I like the idea of NOT having to fly 1/2 sector to get into a fight that takes all of 30 seconds at most (for most fights) and then have to launch again and fly 1/2 sector to get back into it again.
I have been spending quite a bit of time in the DA within the last month due to the fact that the MA just plain blows chunks as of late. Despite what Ghosth says or thinks, it was not an FFA. For the most part, all that were/are flying in the DA have acted correctly and accordingly. Check 6s were given - returned and fights were had without interruption.
Those that violated the "rulez" - cherry-picking fights / vulching the runway / shooting planes from the spawn while sitting at the spawn were pretty much kept in check by those that were victims of the abuse along with the other that would help keep the violaters in check.
In other words ... the community was starting to control the situation themselves ... which for the most part ... was pretty fair in their judgements/punishments.
With that, and now that KS is on, I would tend to believe that they "bad apples" were the ones that started to whine incessantly to HTC and for some reason HTC decided to act.
The real puzzling part is that before the DA community started to police themselves, they asked repeatedly for assistance from HTC and it all appeared to have fallen on deaf ears ... but now we have KS on to solve the problem ? ... cheap way out and is bogus from where I sit.
So, Ghosth ... you really haven't been in the DA too much as of late, otherwise you wouldn't have made this arrogant statement ...
You all have had your chance, and failed to police the area enough to keep it the way it was. DA was policing itself and for the most part was doing a good and fair job from what I experienced.
There is no reason why the DA could not be restored to KS on and it have Mods ... just the same as the TA ... to keep things in check and running smoothly. If discretionary individuals can be found and used in the TA, then the same can be done for the DA.
