DA Now Stinks

[Stang]

Originally posted by Squeaky Teens

[Ghosth]

Slapshot

I'll agree to disagree on this subject sir, and continue to give you the respect you've earned. I expect the same in return.

As for not being in there enough, well I put in about 6 hours of my time last sunday "trying" to help the situation. No need to take my word for it. Ask AKA, MRD, or many others. To little too late, most likely, but at least I TRIED!

Arrogant, absolutely not. And from my perspective I've done nothing to earn that slam.

The fact of the matter is KS in the DA is a temp fix. I trust HTC to be working on a better long term solution. We just need to give them the time to do it.

[Stang]

Originally posted by Ghosth
The fact of the matter is KS in the DA is a temp fix. I trust HTC to be working on a better long term solution. We just need to give them the time to do it.

Yup... now let the kiddies go back to squeaking and screaching.

[Sloehand]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
We really do not need 9 threads about the same topic folks.

With apologies, Skuzzy.  Yes, we do.  Use this as statistical evidence that a great many in the community are VERY unhappy with the current solution.  People are trying to voice their collective opinion (what else is a forum for?), but often figure their not being heard, or worse, ignored.
But there is a problem, and HiTech et al, should listen, not scold.

[hitech]

SloeHand: See rule 3.

3- Do not open a new thread that duplicates a current topic.

HiTech

[Sloehand]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Slapshot


As for not being in there enough, well I put in about 6 hours of my time last sunday "trying" to help the situation. No need to take my word for it. Ask AKA, MRD, or many others. To little too late, most likely, but at least I TRIED!


The fact of the matter is KS in the DA is a temp fix. I trust HTC to be working on a better long term solution. We just need to give them the time to do it.

Ghosth, I know you've been in the DA RECENTLY, but not, I think, consistantly over the last 11 months.  At least not as consistantly as I have.  
I discovered AH 11 months ago, and being semi-retired for awhile I've been on EVERY day since, minus maybe 15-20 days.  Of the days I'm online, 70-80% of them I spent at least a 1/2 hour to up to 6 hours of it in the DA.
Up until a month or so ago, we had a managable problem with the newbie troublemakers, which would escalate somewhat, then taper back down, right after an Aces High TV promo.  We were "policing" the DA ourselves and it basically worked, though we all wished HiTech would make it better and easier to do with a few adjustments.
Then, for some reason, we got a real influx of 'bad' guys.  Instead of the usual one or two in the DA at any one time and all the time, we started getting 4, 5, and 6 of them all at once.  And at least two or three of them were uncharateristically persistant (13adMofo in particular), enjoying their anti-social, disruptive activities day after day no matter what we (the DA community at large) did.  No admonishment, comment, complaint,  threat or punishment would stop those few, as had worked on the majority in the past.  Their persistant bad behavior seemed to encourage the normal newbs that we used to eventually rehabilitate, or who left the DA permanently.
So, the DA just got really out of hand the last two weeks and so, the complaints escalated as well, and you Ghosth showed up.  Which we do thank you for.
So we have managed the problem in the DA ourselves for a long time, but recently it has been more of a problem than ever.  I wish I knew your secret - what AH films and phone number? -- and am glad you had success.  Maybe it goes to show that a little proper intervention by a Mod periodically would help solve the problem instead of radically changing the format of the DA to the detriment of all.
Also, this is the first time I've heard that kill shooter in the DA is a 'temorary' fix, but am glad for that.  Where does HiTech 'tell' us what they are doing about a problem and its solution.  As far as I know, kill shooter appeared without any warning to anyone, and no mention of temporary was made.  Did I miss the memo?

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Slapshot

I'll agree to disagree on this subject sir, and continue to give you the respect you've earned. I expect the same in return.

As for not being in there enough, well I put in about 6 hours of my time last sunday "trying" to help the situation. No need to take my word for it. Ask AKA, MRD, or many others. To little too late, most likely, but at least I TRIED!

Arrogant, absolutely not. And from my perspective I've done nothing to earn that slam.

The fact of the matter is KS in the DA is a temp fix. I trust HTC to be working on a better long term solution. We just need to give them the time to do it.

My apologies Ghosth ... sorry I got a little worked up ... I thought that we were doing a pretty good job in there and to be accused of not doing just that ... well ... again ... sorry for the off-cuff attack.

[dedalos]

As slohand said.  It was fairly easy to control when it was a few gus doing it.  Now it seems it is everyone.   In any case, even though policing it ourselfs can work, that is not why I go to the DA.  Am not going there to vulch JohnnyWas son for an our an a half, only to have Johnnywa senior to show up in order to continue.  Sure I kept them from interfeerign with anyone elses fight, but what about me?  Eventually the get smart and up 163s or 262s from a different field.  I would not mind helping but vulching them does not work, especially when there are there in numbers.

2 simple rules and doing something to the abusers would have been enough.

Here is an other reason killshooter makes it worse.  Lets say you do get into a duel with your budie and a couple of these idiots show up.  How do you know who is who?  

For trying, but this will not work.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by AutoPilot
And really TC,we can tell the kind of people you are bringing into the TA because it shows in every other arena with the HO'ing,the lack and teaching of ACM,and you are responsible for that.

Seems you and everybody else doesn't like too hear or see the truth written,maybe you'll get over that one day.


And who said i wanted acceptance by you and the others?Like i care what you and the others think.

Auto, I have had nothing to do with the training corps or your current vendetta, but this private war is descending towards irrational personal attack.

In order for the training corps to help change the way people fly, those people have to both WANT help and LISTEN when they;re taught. I'd wager that 90% or more CPID's in the MA havent had any significant training time, and dont particularly want anyone to tell them how to do better.

You may be bitter over past percieved wrongs, but there's just no place for blaming TC for the MA. Claims like that jsut make you look silly.

[MRDILLIGAF]

So, there has been some misunderstanding going on about what I said about my squad and the DA. We do not use the DA for anything else but practice and dualing challenges, in most cases we do not stay at A30 but move to other bases within the DA. We do not fire on others without checking six or being fired on first.  

I want to apologise for any misunderstanding from what I wrote, all we are interested in is good clean fun and playing the game to the best of our ability. There was no personal attact on anyone in the game or at HTC.

Sure the FFA's in the DA are fun but only if all want to do it. We have even challenged other squads to group duals. It wasn't just the vulching and such but the personal verbal attacks a few of those people committed on others that go to me, there was a few very bad things said to and about our female squad mate that almost made her quit the game all together and when her son stood up for her things got even worse. I guess that's all part of the reason I went off so bad last night and because of the fun the game & the DA can be.

If I pissed anyone off in here, I am sorry!  I never had any intent to make anything worse, only better.


The higher...The fewer!!

[MRDILLIGAF]

For me, it is not about kills, more about staying alive and learning to be a better pilot. Our squad name, THE BAD COMPANY CLAN is not now or ever going to be anything more than a squad name. There are far worse names out there and plenty of more nasty people too.

Our moto is simple... Have fun, play our best, no trash talking and respect others. I have only been at AH for a couple of months, never been in this kind of game before and got scooped up by these good guys who are not looking for the killers but those who have the want to learn. Our squadies are nice guys and gal who range from 13 to 53 and even had a birthday request to fly a mission in the main arena, now does that sound like a first strike or vulcher type of squad? Though I will admit, DUGY (the 13 yr old) does count his kills but he is a 13 yr old kid, we accept that.

Sorry if anyone got the wrong attitude.

MRDilligaf.

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by dedalos


TC,  

I didn't , no worries, out of all the different threads and from what I can remember it all has run amuck

Good Luck DA flyers with your wishes.......maybe you end up getting some type of middle ground

as for the training issue question,  ded, think it got all mixed between the umpteen different threads , and I'll take full responsibility for throwing the wrench into the works...........is all really funny to read though actually:lol

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by AutoPilot
And really TC,we can tell the kind of people you are bringing into the TA because it shows in every other arena with the HO'ing,the lack and teaching of ACM,and you are responsible for that.
Seems you and everybody else doesn't like too hear or see the truth written,maybe you'll get over that one day.
And who said i wanted acceptance by you and the others?Like i care what you and the others think.

  someone  is having a hisseyfit  

[Meatwad]

Better give him his pacifier

[daMIG]

there are parts of the DA that only the dedicated go. The peeps that want to sit and pull wings offa flies can fly where the DA spawns em. I really like the TA and old DA. Some really good training, and fun flying with no k/s. But ya know what... I work around this too... :-)

(you know who you are)