Author Topic: DA Now Stinks (Read 5794 times)

Arcades057 · « **Reply #150 on:** March 04, 2006, 12:10:29 AM »

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Originally posted by nirvana
Aren't you a teen arcades? I thought (memory is slipping) I heard you on vox one night and your voice was high pitched. So what if i'm a teen, don't blame me for the other 95% that can't handle themselves *cough*half-the-people-posting-in-the-DA-threads*cough*

No, Nirvana, I'm 25 and the voice is nowhere near highpitch.

It's not the teens who are the problem, I'm sorry if you thought I meant that. I was a teen once and played Air Warrior for hours and hours every night and was nice and civil to everyone around me. The problem arises from the, let us say, teen-mentality, ie the folks that prattle on about "great ho, loser" all night long. I got sick and tired of flying for an hour or two a night and seeing dozens of "HO dweeb" or "got lucky, alt dweeb" or "you n00b" being thrown back and forth. The MA struck me as exactly what I sadi: A teen and preteen daycare center and a place for people who are meek and picked on in real life to vent their frustrations. Not a place for me to go and have fun.

But to each his own. Enjoy the game

Ghosth · « **Reply #151 on:** March 04, 2006, 07:07:58 AM »

Slapshot, and in return I'll apoligise.

I had no intention of tarring you with the same brush as the free for all vulch crowd at 30. Your right, I havn't been in the DA that much in the last year.

I'm also right, I've seen that FFA, know it intimately from when it was in the TA.
I've watched the problem ebb & flow over the last 5 years. Only the names have changed, the behaivor doesn't.

Vulching those who vulched you isn't really a solution. It just leads to more miscommunication, more angry feelings, more vulching. Education is the key, but there are some apples that refuse to learn. They are just bad apples.

And "some" of the ones who are screaming the loudest now, are the biggest problems.

The Fugitive · « **Reply #152 on:** March 04, 2006, 09:57:59 AM »

First off, Air Warrior is DEAD !!! I thank god and HT that Aces High will never become AWIV.

TA is the training arena, most often used as a beginners area to learn the basics of the game. Advanced training can also be had here should you want, just ask.

DA is the Dueling Arena, used as a place to have that 1 vs 1 fight to see whos best. As for training, it could be helpful as an advanced area to learn advanced ACM.

MA is for pretty much everything else. What you learn in the TA, and DA is only a foundation for what you learn in the MA. Sure the "take off's" the same as you learned in the TA, the advanced manuvers are the same as in the DA, but there is vulchin in the MA as well as "cherry pickers" that defeat even the best advanced maneuvers.

All games have rules, and in a "business" such as this one those rules define what the company is trying to market. Should you not like the product, you are free to go. Crying and demanding change isn't going to get you any where. If I don't like what Chevy did to the new Monte Carlo, I just don't buy one. Same here, if ya don't like the "game", if you can't fit "your style" of play into the mold, move along. Why make this tougher than it is?

AutoPilot · « **Reply #153 on:** March 04, 2006, 10:01:20 AM »

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Crying and demanding change isn't going to get you any where.

Thats not true,when they wanted the fuel changed they cryed and it got changed.When they wanted the darkness to end,they cryed and it was no longer dark.

The Fugitive · « **Reply #154 on:** March 04, 2006, 12:08:59 PM »

Thats not true,when they wanted the fuel changed they cryed and it got changed.When they wanted the darkness to end,they cryed and it was no longer dark.

And they are still crying about both. The point is, if your not happy with the game, move on! If there is nothing else you would rather be playing, adapt to what is available either here or someplace else. Stop crying and play the game....which ever game you play!

AutoPilot · « **Reply #155 on:** March 04, 2006, 12:12:03 PM »

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Stop crying and play the game....which ever game you play!

What if your playing the Crying Game?

2bighorn · « **Reply #156 on:** March 04, 2006, 12:40:38 PM »

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Originally posted by The Fugitive
And they are still crying about both. The point is, if your not happy with the game, move on! If there is nothing else you would rather be playing, adapt to what is available either here or someplace else. Stop crying and play the game....which ever game you play!

Did you bother reading the thread?

It's not about crying to change the game. It's about players --> few bad apples. It's about the change which limit those who behave and does not limit bad behaviour.

All you do is whinning about those who you think they whine about something you don't know what it really is.

Same suggestion to you; if you don't like discussion about DA, don't read it, don't post, just leave it.

The Fugitive · « **Reply #157 on:** March 04, 2006, 09:25:21 PM »

First off, yes I did waste the time to read each and every post here. It started with Slohand "crying" about the changes made to the DA, those changes where made due to others "crying" and the "few bad apples" you pointed out.

Second,"Crying" about this stuff never fixes anything. All ya do is make one guy happy, and piss three more off. The differance between your posts and mine is I know it won't "fix" everything, you and others who spend their time here "crying" about it believe it will.

slimey_J · « **Reply #158 on:** March 04, 2006, 09:51:24 PM »

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Originally posted by AutoPilot
What if your playing the Crying Game?

I have nothing else to add (like a lot of folks around here)... but I wanted to point this out and nominate it for the "funniest line ever" award.

2bighorn · « **Reply #159 on:** March 04, 2006, 10:05:54 PM »

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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Second,"Crying" about this stuff never fixes anything.

And crying about crying does?

Pieper · « **Reply #160 on:** March 04, 2006, 11:50:09 PM »

Kill shooters in the DA just isnt right.......If some teens are bohoin about other teens vulchin them, then so what.

The DA just isnt the DA if you cant fight your own country...This is where we have always looked for 1v1 fights.....even challenged eachother to them. So, If I cant kill fellow countrymen then I cant challenge another player. This contridicts the whole principle of even having a DA, because you cannot tell who the enemy is.....just like the MA.

I think HiTech should stay out of the DA. If people are vulchin you in there....and you really want to fight 1v1....all you have to do is change fields, and flip the guy the Bird on country......Now we cant even fight in there because of KS....I think this is BS.

Put the DA back to the way it was!!!!!!!!!!!

Pieper

BTW.....If you see a Spit you cant shake on your 6......chances are Its me

Delirium · « **Reply #161 on:** March 05, 2006, 12:10:40 AM »

Let me get this straight... correct if I read your post wrong, but this is what you are saying;

1. Hitech should stay out of the DA, even if then own, are responsible for, and moderate the DA.

2. The DA isn't a place for 1v1s, unless you can hide in a corner of the map from some one who is more interested in vulching or interrupting a 1v1.

3. You are one of these individuals that routinely interrupt 1v1s, and you will continue to do so.

Glad I don't go to the DA often... sounds like a concentrated form of teen-whining to me.

pluck · « **Reply #162 on:** March 05, 2006, 02:46:51 AM »

i have flown in the DA for a few years now, on and off, under many different names. this is my take on the DA.

if you really want to duel someone (with all fairness), then i believe each should set a plane, an agreed upon altitude, take off from seperate fields, merge cold, and....game on.

there is nothing stopping you from challenging another player. type them a message, and you guys can determine the rest....

DA should be about a 1v1 fight, with both parties having agreed upon rules. though i mostly fly circles waiting for someone to "six me," that call almost always comes when they are 2-3k out. the person giving the 6 holds all the cards, they choose their speed, they choose who to six, and they choose who they call. not entirely fair.

imho, the DA as it was without killshooter was a psuedo DA anyway...if you call a six against someone, and you lose, well you know you screwed up. if you call a six on someone and win....are you really better given the fact that you hold all the cards to begin with?

so, with kill shooter on you can still challenge people to a duel...it doesn't take very long for 2 planes to lift off and meet each other. the only downside i see is that you cant all cluster and set your own terms for a duel.

frankly, its been a long long time since i've had a good duel there. had a couple against 2bighorn..or bovidae..(sp), had a few with jish, but other than that seems to be a bunch of teens vulching, and a bunch of guy's sixing when they have advantage. also of note, had some fun with batfink's squad, fighting another squad 1-2 months ago.

so just have 2 bases where red and green can meet.....and the rest for serious duelers who really want to test each other. of course this is my HO.

p.s....can we please stop with all these DA posts about the same thing.

bj229r · « **Reply #163 on:** March 05, 2006, 07:28:02 AM »

DON'T YOU $$%%$** PEOPLE READ! THERE'S ALREADY LIKE 5 #$#$$#^ THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT!...HEAD....EXPLODING.....

The Fugitive · « **Reply #164 on:** March 05, 2006, 09:33:31 AM »

like all other teenagers, its all about them, and they are the center of the universe, there fore nobody else could possibly have though of, or posted about this yet.