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Offline Shuckins

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« Reply #225 on: March 15, 2006, 10:25:08 PM »
By the way...someone needs to go cut Vor's lifeless body down.

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« Reply #226 on: March 16, 2006, 04:39:29 AM »
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most of all... you seem to not even notice that hollywood is left leaning.   I can't come up with one example of anyone even in the business not admitting that...

I have not seen you or momus admit it either.  We can't even get past that.  


I'm starting to think you actually lack the capacity to conduct your argument rather than just being deliberately obtuse.

No-one has argued with you that many high profile figures within Hollywood lean to the left. What is at issue is how that political support affects actual movie output.  All you have is the assumption that because many in the industry lean to the left, the movie output will be inevitably tainted as a consequence. Fine, so lets say you're correct; where are the consequences of this bias? The industry produces many hundreds of movies annually, and so far all you and your comedy sidekick Mighty1 have given us a list of..seven films....movies which may or may not even express this bias you allege.

Seven movies..that is all you have provided as evidence of the of what you termed as a widespread bias within the industry. Seven movies..

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« Reply #227 on: March 16, 2006, 05:47:43 AM »
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I'd just like to see Hollywood, or Anywood, make one or two good movies before I die of old age. It's all mostly crap, with crappy themes and crappy plots with crappy actors delivering crappy dialogue - crappily.


Hang on in there Rolex, your going to wanna see this.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Film/Land-of-the-killer-sheep/2005/05/04/1115092536271.html




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« Reply #228 on: March 16, 2006, 06:39:38 AM »
Now that's what I'm talking about - mutant killer sheep!

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« Reply #229 on: March 16, 2006, 06:50:50 AM »
Did anyone see this weeks Boston Legal?

I had it taped and finally watched it last night. That show alone proves hollywood is left.

The whole show was about how Bush lied about WMD was illegally wire tapping everyday citizens and how he was destroying the Bill of Rights.

It was nothing more than an hour long left wing rant.


edit: Forgot to say they even took a swipe at Fox.
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« Reply #230 on: March 16, 2006, 07:20:10 AM »
Didn't see it, but from what I've read, Bush lied about WMD, ordered illegal wiretapping in contravention of the 1978 Surveillance Act and is chipping away at your Bill of Rights. That would make the show a right-wing rant, wouldn't it?

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« Reply #231 on: March 16, 2006, 07:26:17 AM »
Hunh?

How?
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« Reply #232 on: March 16, 2006, 08:17:47 AM »
Is "truthiness" right wing or left wing?

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« Reply #233 on: March 16, 2006, 08:39:20 AM »
urchin and momus... allmost all of the movies nominated for awards this year had a leftist or homosexual or bizzare sexual theme.  You seem unable to admit this.  

I say that Hollywood left gets 67 million hits and that Hollywood right has allmost none.   I say that no books are made that say hollywood leans two far to the right yet dozens are written that say the opposite... I say that no one in hollywood will say that hollywood is not leftist or left leaning.... shukins points out that they even brag about "breaking new ground" with all hommo movies and it is a fact that no other movie than brokebutt mountain ever recieved so many awards from so many people who never seen it.

I say that hollywood raises vast amounts of money for democrats and left leaning causes but little for conservative ones.  I say that 85% of comedians are liberal... I say that all this taints the work that these people do.

I believe that all this is so obvious to most people that it is just accepted..  

Coulter writes that the films nominated have agendas that are leftist... she says how and she is right.  she writes a book talking about the Hollywood left and she is probly correct on that too.... I have only read parts of it and I am sure that momus or urchin have read none of it.

I offer to name 5 lefties in hollywood for every right winger momus or urchin can name.   I now offer to read any book that disputes that hollywood is leftist and would be especialy interested in any book or even article... that claims hollywood is conservative.

In the "we only went to iraq for the oil" arguement.   There are ample examples of papers and even books that support and refute it.   I would say that none claim that it is that simple tho.  

With hollywood... no one claims it is not leftist... only degree is in question and... for sake of this arguement... how much it taints the work done by said leftists.

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« Reply #234 on: March 16, 2006, 08:44:54 AM »
bowling for columbine got all kinds of awards including best documentary when it was about 90% false...  

farenheight got awards and praise even tho it was about the same amount BS and...  everyone knew that both were simple politcal leftist rants...   the tubby one is an avowed socialist and leftie... he lets his work be tainted to the point of intentional twisting of fact.

I am saying that the hollywood left all act as he does but simply not as much... in varying degrees but allways there.   I am also saying that a right wing director and crew would probly taint their works for the conservative side.

To think otherwise seems both dishonest and naive.

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« Reply #235 on: March 16, 2006, 09:36:43 AM »
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Is "truthiness" right wing or left wing?


Both and neither!

Telling the truth should be done by all and it cannot be attached to one party.

Both sides have liars so the tag of "liar" cannot be attached to one party either.

Both sides have corrupt people.

Both sides have their fringe nutjobs.


As for the show I did watch it and it gave no facts that Bush lied...none nor did it tell the truth when they said that Bush was spying on everyone.  Again no facts to back up claims of wrong doing.

Just left wing Hollywood (and most Democrats) trying to make Bush out to be a criminal without ever showing one ounce of proof.
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« Reply #236 on: March 16, 2006, 09:52:00 AM »
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urchin and momus... allmost all of the movies nominated for awards this year had a leftist or homosexual or bizzare sexual theme.  You seem unable to admit this.  


Ok Lazs, why don't you give us a quick run through this years nominees and tell us why you (not Coulter) think they are designed to advance the agenda you are claiming exists.  Once you've done that, maybe you can tell us what all the other gay/liberal agenda movies are that you claim exist but have so far failed to name.


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I say that Hollywood left gets 67 million hits and that Hollywood right has allmost none.


Great, and anyone with half a brain is laughing at you if you think that is any kind of valid method of data collection.

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I say that no books are made that say hollywood leans two far to the right yet dozens are written that say the opposite...


All that proves is that writing books that cater to the prejudices of paranoid reactionaries is a lucrative business, or did you think Coulter writes her garbage out of altruism?

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I say that no one in hollywood will say that hollywood is not leftist or left leaning.... shukins points out that they even brag about "breaking new ground" with all hommo movies and it is a fact that no other movie than brokebutt mountain ever recieved so many awards from so many people who never seen it.


Brokeback got awards from people who had never even seen it? Source? And what are all these other "homo" movies that no-one is forcing anyone to go and watch? Titles?

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I say that hollywood raises vast amounts of money for democrats and left leaning causes but little for conservative ones.  I say that 85% of comedians are liberal... I say that all this taints the work that these people do.


And yet when asked, you can't even list the films that you think are thus tainted other than a tiny percentage of total output based on a list drawn up by somebody else.

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I believe that all this is so obvious to most people that it is just accepted..


Which means absolutely nothing in itself. 70% of Americans are said to have erroneously believed that Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks. Are you saying that they were right all along?

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Coulter writes that the films nominated have agendas that are leftist... she says how and she is right.  she writes a book talking about the Hollywood left and she is probly correct on that too.... I have only read parts of it and I am sure that momus or urchin have read none of it.


I don't need to read Coulter to know that she is talking nonsense; I just need to look at the list of nominees over the last few decades or so. Why don't you do the same and list all these gay liberal movies that are nominated year after year?

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I offer to name 5 lefties in hollywood for every right winger momus or urchin can name.   I now offer to read any book that disputes that hollywood is leftist and would be especialy interested in any book or even article... that claims hollywood is conservative.


You can name as many hollywood liberals as you like; you still can't list any significant number of films that promote this agenda you claim exists..that is the point that you are still trying to dodge.

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In the "we only went to iraq for the oil" arguement.   There are ample examples of papers and even books that support and refute it.   I would say that none claim that it is that simple tho.


And yet you're more than happy to assign a similarly simplistic argument to a complex situation in this case when it satisifies your prejudices?

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With hollywood... no one claims it is not leftist... only degree is in question and... for sake of this arguement... how much it taints the work done by said leftists.


Good, so why don't you just get on with proving how you think most of Hollywood is trying to advance a gay/liberal agenda via it's actual output by actually describing any significant number of the films in question, you know, like I've been asking you to do all along?

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« Reply #237 on: March 16, 2006, 12:51:45 PM »
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I say that Hollywood left gets 67 million hits and that Hollywood right has allmost none.



As I already posted,  Hollwood right gets over 40 million hits.

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« Reply #238 on: March 16, 2006, 02:25:14 PM »
ok... but it is not "right" as we are talking about... it is right as in "correct".  If you say hollywood left, you get the political meaning... in order to get the political meaning of "hollywood right" you would have to say "hollywood conservative" and when you do that you only get 3 million hits most of which are just saying the same as the hits for "hollywood left".... that.... there is no hollywood right to speak of.

momus.... name a hollywood actor director or producer that is conservative and I will name 5 that are lefties...  

Name one book that says that hollywood is mostly right wing or even balanced between right and left...   I am saying that it is obvious that hollywood leans to the left and showing you by all the books and all the hits that most people take this for granted as an undeniable truth.

It's like asking if the pope is catholic.

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« Reply #239 on: March 16, 2006, 02:34:10 PM »
Ahem... correlation and causation aren't the same thing.
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