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Offline straffo

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sometime ago someone asked about the Kommandogerät
« on: March 09, 2006, 05:00:00 AM »
Found this


nice work no ?

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Re: sometime ago someone asked about the Kommandogerät
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 05:16:42 PM »
Hi Straffo,

>nice work no ?

Definitely! :-)

By the way, the factory workers producing the command device were told they were manufacturing a secret bomb sight.

(I'm sure workers elsewhere - manufacturing bomb sights - were told they were producing secret command devices.)

From http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=171934 :

One comparative US report report on the FW190 expresses doubt on whether the command device would allow to get the best performance and economy from the engine. On the other hand, there is a detailed NACA report showing that it handled non-linear relationships of some half dozen parameters, and I believe it would be hard for a human operator to manage the engine with similar effectiveness.

However, after WW2 additional sensors were installed in piston-engined aircraft that provided the flight engineers with more data than available before (stuff like brake mean effective power gauges and exhaust temperature thermometers), and from what I've read, that really took engine management a step beyond what was possible during WW2, command device or not.

The command device, by the way, was not unique. The Jumo 213 for example had a "single lever control device" that was even more advanced than its BMW counterpart, regulating charge mass instead of boost pressure to get higher power below full throttle height.

The Allies, too, had single lever control devices. The French had employed one for the Dewoitine D. 520 even before the war, but apparently it still had some issues, judging by Eric Brown's test flight impressions. The late-war Spitfires had an "interconnected control levers" operation mode, too, which apparently worked just like a command device, at least when the engine was operating at maximum power. For normal climb and cruise situations, the pilot could override this system for better efficiency.

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Offline Pooface

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sometime ago someone asked about the Kommandogerät
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 05:19:24 PM »
ok, really stupid question, but what is a kommandogerat?

Offline Pooface

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sometime ago someone asked about the Kommandogerät
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2006, 05:21:10 PM »
oh wait, is it like an automated throttle control? like, controls all power settings and stuff with one lever like in the 190's?

Offline Krusty

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sometime ago someone asked about the Kommandogerät
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2006, 12:32:34 AM »
That is what it be, aye. Argh! Sorry, just felt like talking "Pirate" at the moment.

Offline Debonair

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sometime ago someone asked about the Kommandogerät
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2006, 11:55:00 PM »
That was me asking about it.
Was wondering why it ran over rich at high power settings (I guessed for a cooling benefit) & if it was common practice to override it for the fuel saving & performance boost