Why the fuss over the HO

[icemaw]

If your little red icon plane holds still in my gunsight long enough for me to get a guns solution your gonna get shot no matter what direction you plane is pointing. I normally am trying to avoid getting shot in a HO merge so I dont get a lot of guns solutions in them. How ever when I do the trigger is getting pulled and if it makes you whine  all the better. I cant even remember the last time I was killed by an HO so if its happening to you a lot its probably YOUR FAULT  So suck it up learn some ACM avoid the HO and quit whining. In other words.
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[F4J]

It still takes two to HO.

[Ghosth]

Couple of quick points.

If its not hold your guns on him as you both go nose to nose from 3k or farther out its NOT a HO.

Its a forward quarter shot in a fight. Totattly different beast entirely.

Second, if the other guy has the advantage, in alt, position, numbers, all bets are off. I'll take any shot I can get that lets me stay alive a smidgeon longer.
If that bruises your ego, well too darn bad.  You want a fair fight, it should be fair, period.

What Marine said was very appropriate, agree completely.

[Tumor]

I don't think it's the HO really that causes the whines... it's the kiddie "I'm gonna shoot you even if it's a retarded move that could easily kill me cuz I can just re-up again" attitude.  Sounds like Superdud's got it down pat

Tumor

[straffo]

HO whine are from people who don't know :
- how to avoid  an HO attempt
- how to win an HO

Since I learned both when I see and HOer I'm happy ... he will soon be dead

[Mister ED]

HOing a C-47 is a sound tactical move. Ive got no problem with that at all, been doing it for years.

I do have a problem with blue aircrafting HOing my Pony because its the only way they can draw blood.

But then I hate alt dweebs in blue planes even more.

Ive been for an allied/axis theater from the git go.

I gave up and gentleman fighting, and chilvery along time ago.

[KTM520guy]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV
HOing is totaly lame on the first pass.


after the first merge and the fight is 'on' its just kinda weak.....


......and more importantly, stupid; If someone has their guns pointed at you, why are you holding still trying to aim, why are you not working on avoiding those guns and reversing to a possition where you have guns on and the enema doesnt?



HO'ing is for 2 week newbs and 'vets' that never got past the 2 week newb skill level.

I'm not one to HO myself. That tactic just doesn't work for me. I just don't understand why people cry about so much. The age of chivalry is long since past. This a WWII based sim. The point is to make the other guy dead and take his dirt.

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Tumor
I don't think it's the HO really that causes the whines... it's the kiddie "I'm gonna shoot you even if it's a retarded move that could easily kill me cuz I can just re-up again" attitude.  Sounds like Superdud's got it down pat

Tumor

So basically you're saying you aren't skilled enough to dodge a HO and therefore cry when you get hit by it. I hope one day I can live up to your standards of the elite virtual air pile-it, until that day I will HO and laugh as you cry on CH200 about it. Knowing that some guy from the internet thinks less of me is really tearing me up inside:aok

[outlaw21.bryan]

Originally posted by NAVCAD


If you don't like the game play....then don't play:o

Also, don't criticize someone elses play because it doesn't fit YOUR style of play.



NAVCAD

p.s.  OK uncap the guns....ready for the inevitable backlash...LMFAO

I got Yer Back Hommie:huh

[Donzo]

I propose that from this point forward that we as the Aces High community no longer refer to the above mentioned situation as a "HOing".

From this point forward we shal call it "Jousting".

That is all.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Kurt
Wow, is that what I said?  I said I always go for the HO?  hmmm

I guess on the alternate universe version of this board that is what translated, but here on Earth I didn't say anything even remotely like that.

I was speaking in general terms and not the literal sence.
reread the entirety of my post. and take out of it what applies to you.

But you did say sometrhing to the efect that "If your little plane passes the little red dot in my sight... I shoot."

Which tells me that if that little plane is comming at you, Yes, you will go for the HO.
And inasmuch as a very large portion of fights start off with a head on merge. Based on what you yourself said it would be very easy to assume that in a head on merge you will always go for the HO.

Course there are those  who do literally only go for the HO unless they manage to sneak up on you.
I see them every night. I can think of one rook pilot in particular whom all he ever does is try for the HO. and if he misses, he runs away till he can turn around and try it again. or, he simply runs away.

I dont beleive I ever fought you, So I cant rightly say which form of dweebery you prefer

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by F4J
It still takes two to HO.

No. It only takes 1 to pull the trigger to HO.

thre have been alot of times Ive found myself in a HO position without intending on getting there

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by ColdKill
Total Bull!  You want to go around going for the HO everytime?  You are ruining the gameplay of others and wasting the playing time of others.  I can dodge almost every HO so they don't bother me, but to see a guy do nothing but go for the HO everypass is really pathetic.  Someone could be nice and teach the guy how to manuver on a planes 6.   If you want to get good at dogfighting, you will learn to fight instead of HO.  In AH, the HO shot is a skilless, pathetic, cowardly way to earn kills.  If you post what this guy post it only shows the level you have reached so far.  By all means try and graduate to actual dogfighting!

Agree 100%.  Spot on CK

Karaya

[Kurt]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
But you did say sometrhing to the efect that "If your little plane passes the little red dot in my sight... I shoot."

Which tells me that if that little plane is comming at you, Yes, you will go for the HO.

Not quite... I'm busy working for a solution... Trying to set up and HO means that I am going to put my self at risk of being shot by YOU (or whomever I'm fighting) Thus, I don't do that.  If I see an HO developing I WILL assess my aircraft vs yours.  If I believe the plane I am in will trump your hand AND you are clearly setting up an HO, I will shoot.  I'm quite effective in that position.  I do not farm it.

In the process of getting out of your guns I will more often avoid the HO.  I can not remember the last time I was shot down in an HO when I was not an active participant... Read that as... IT TAKES TWO.  I have never been shot down by an HO when I was willing to duck under it.

Based on what you yourself said it would be very easy to assume that in a head on merge you will always go for the HO.

Then you didn't read what I wrote... You read what you expected me to mean.

I dont beleive I ever fought you, So I cant rightly say which form of dweebery you prefer

Nor can you assume I use any form of dweebery.. but thanks for your confidence.  Since you've called me dweeb I suppose its fair to tell you you're a twit.

[SAS_KID]

i meen depends how they ho'd me i meen sprying from 1.5 out just pisses mem off or when they set up from 5k out to HO but if we merge and turn and end up about to HO each other then i find it ok.